Different summoner combos - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

Deedlit · 05-01-2003, 09:32 AM

I did a search on this, but didn't find anything to help me out.

I definitely want to pursue the summoner/white mage route. Can someone compare this if I chose elvaan/tarutaru/hume? Yes yes, I know that tarutaru's are the best mages, but HOW inferior are the other two?

ShadowHeart · 05-01-2003, 06:05 PM

Elvaan:

Uber high HP considering Mage job ... Low MP ... Not too low though ^^

TaruTaru:

Uber high MP ... Low HP considering Mage class ... Not too low though

Hume:

Overall avarage ...

Btw, Elvaans look the coolest while summoning

;;;

Deedlit · 05-02-2003, 12:31 AM

LOL thanks for the insight

I've been reading in a few places that elvaans will have higher MND (better for whm). Now, what stat does summoning work off of? Int or mnd (or if I'm completely off, let me know)? I figure I'll eventually get enough mp boosting equipment that I wouldn't worry about that too much, but if I'm gonna have both lower MP than a tarutaru (expected) AND lower major power (if summons use MND, wouldn't it be better?) then it's a little disheartening. :sweat:

Nico Silius · 05-02-2003, 02:09 AM

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

MND is magic defense. The only thing that effects magic damage is INT.

I used to believe that MND was for white magic damage, but I've recently seen imprters correcting that assuption.

So a white mage Elvaan wil be pretty crappy.

Still, they have excellent magic defense!

Semih Neridia · 05-02-2003, 03:35 AM

High MND + High target(you or your friend) VIT = High amount of healing, so the bubble still floating around, buddy.

Deedlit · 05-02-2003, 08:54 AM

Understood - and am grateful for the info, I figured that MND helped with healing magic, just makes sense. But, do summoners, depend more on MND or INT?

Deedlit · 05-06-2003, 09:00 PM

I'm /bumping this (since no one here seems to use the search button anyway) and because no one answered the question - look one post up

tazirai · 05-06-2003, 09:34 PM

Not a summoner but i know many JP and other summoners on ramuh so i'll ask them for ya dee.

Deedlit · 05-07-2003, 09:39 PM

Thanks hon, will wait for your answer

tazirai · 05-08-2003, 02:08 PM

From what i understand is that a summoner is great combo to a white or red mage type.
BLM is not a popular choice and may change in the NA version.
WHM/SUM or SUM/WHM is good because of the increased amount of Mp. And when in a PT most will want you to use heals and or status effects and having the summons is a great addiition to PT for adding that extra damage or status effect.

Others would be summoner thief
when summons is attacking you can backstab and or gil steal.
I know a jp summoner/thief and he swears by it .
He lieks the fact of stealing gil.
Once i get more info i'll et you know

Zurar · 05-09-2003, 12:04 AM

Didn't get a response in the other thread i posted this question in and noticed this thread shortly after posting there :sweat: so i guess i'll ask here...

My question was...how would a Ninja main, Summoner Subjob turn out? You think it would work ok or would i end up too weak? Beings i don't know how the game's setup...is it even possible? :sweat: Thanks in advance.

Semih Neridia · 05-09-2003, 07:13 AM

Summoner/Thief only work if you are solo, or making money.

Whitemage/Summoner is only good for its high MP, and some minority benefit of Auto-Refresh, and some of the summon's ability. Sure, whitemage can summon up the summon, but that summon will most likely die in 1 hit, well, not mostlikely, but for sure, already tested it out.

Ninja/Summoner is bad. Ninja is not the job that base on MP, so if you sub summoner, you would likely to get like 150-200MP at lv60. And the summon level will be like 30, like state above, it would die in 1 hit from lv60 monster.

Zurar · 05-09-2003, 08:37 AM

heh, kinda what i thought...figured i'd make sure though :sweat: Thanks

Kosh · 05-11-2003, 03:08 PM

I don't know much about summoners. I didn't even know the summons could die!!! I just thought it went away when you run out of MP.

If a summons dies, how long until you can use it again? Or if its low on HP and you recall it, how long will it take to heal? Also, assuming I have all of the summons, if Carbuncle dies, can I immediately call out Ifrit, than when Ifrit dies, can I immediately call Shiva?

Are you saying that, a summoner would never be a good sub job? Thanks in advance for any possible info.

Maestoso · 05-11-2003, 04:21 PM

Guys no one has answered the man's question. Is the governing attribute of summoning MIND or INT?? Someone answer this before anything. Thanks in advance.