Summoner & Wings of the Goddess Discussion

Malacite · 08-31-2007, 07:03 PM

Not the celestials anyway. They're immortal, the terrestrials are not (they're simply god-like beasts who can still die)

IfritnoItazura · 08-31-2007, 07:07 PM

Who cares? It's a great excuse to update their looks. =b

Taskmage · 08-31-2007, 07:11 PM

There are 5 terrestrial avatars, right? 3 we already have, one they've stated will never be summonable, and one is essentially ruled out for spoilerous reasons. I'll just take it as a given for the sake of arguement that Odin or Alexander will not be summonable. But I believe SE has stated that there will be new summons. Do you think maybe that means another class of summonable in addition to spirits and avatars? Something in between perhaps like incarna?

Akashimo · 08-31-2007, 07:44 PM

incarna? Explain what that means please?

Taskmage · 08-31-2007, 08:23 PM

Uhh, hmm. I thought I could just link a wikipedia article or something but it seems that term isn't in common use ...

What I was thinking of was something between a mindless spirit and a god, but a sentient representative of an element closer to our level of existence, like a faerie or the elementals from the Seiken series. Undine for water, Sylph for wind, etc.

Omgwtfbbqkitten · 08-31-2007, 08:52 PM

you mean like the spirits in the Mana series?

EDIT: D'oh, you just said that, you just used the Japanese name of the series <.<

Yellow Mage · 08-31-2007, 08:58 PM

Sounds like 'em.

(Lol "Efreet." )

Taskmage · 09-01-2007, 10:30 AM

Was it efreet in japanese? In english it was Salmando, and I never finished Seiken 3.

Yellow Mage · 09-01-2007, 12:30 PM

Ooh, my bad, I was thinking of the Tales series. But aren't both series made by the same company, unless I'm mistaken?

What further confused me to belive it was the Tales series was the use of "Undine" and "Sylph." Both spirits are available in both games, and as the spirits of Water and Wind (respectively), at that!

But, Efreet was the Fire Spirit in Tales, and, I can't help but laugh how much it sounds like Final Fantasy's Ifrit.

Malacite · 09-01-2007, 12:35 PM

SD3 was the best one ^^ (I've beaten both. 3 had 3 endings though, depending on which main character you chose since each ending was shared by 2 people)

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But, Efreet was the Fire Spirit in Tales, and, I can't help but laugh how much it sounds like Final Fantasy's Ifrit.

Where do you think Ifrit came from? >_ > (Not tales but I mean the actual Efreet myth. Like everything in the series, it's a twist on existing mythology/other references)

Taskmage · 09-01-2007, 12:38 PM

No, they're not made by the same company, but they're based on the same mythology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondine_...org/wiki/Sylph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifrit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome

emeraldpearl · 09-04-2007, 02:19 AM

maybe pheonix will become a summonable avatar? i know that her essence was merged in CoP but with the new "travel back to the past" prehaps you can face her at full form. also the "wings" of the "goddess"? to me it sounds like they are talking about pheonix, but what do i know ^^

forster · 09-04-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by emeraldpearl

where the hell did that come from?? O.o prehaps reading the thread will make you reconsider your next post.... -.-

The question came from a 1up interview with the S-E staff members, apparently no new faces / hairstyles / races have been added for players to use because the PS2 just cant handle them. FFXI is unfortunately being held back by its initial PS2 release, so if new avatars etc are added, then its a perfectly valid question as to whether the PS2 will be able to 'handle' them.

I cant locate the interview at the minute as Im at work unfortunately.

Ontopic Im levelling SMN pretty hardcore right now, Im all for new avatars - perhaps different forms of the same avatars back in time? Dunno, Im looking forward to it tho.

Pteryx · 09-04-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by emeraldpearl

also the "wings" of the "goddess"? to me it sounds like they are talking about pheonix, but what do i know ^^

The NA name of the expansion is actually officially stated to be a metaphorical reference to the Crystal War army, aka the Alliance of Altana. The JP name is Divine Soldiers of Altana; presumably they couldn't use that name here because here it would get the Christians up in arms against our MMO for promoting a "pagan god" and probably offend several other people along the way.

That being said, I have to agree that going back in time would neatly sidestep the problems with Phoenix as a summon. -- Pteryx

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08-31-2007, 07:11 PM	#18
Taskmage 不完全の花 Administrator Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,457 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 311 Thanked 987x in 495 Posts	Re: Summoner & Wings of the Goddess Discussion There are 5 terrestrial avatars, right? 3 we already have, one they've stated will never be summonable, and one is essentially ruled out for spoilerous reasons. I'll just take it as a given for the sake of arguement that Odin or Alexander will not be summonable. But I believe SE has stated that there will be new summons. Do you think maybe that means another class of summonable in addition to spirits and avatars? Something in between perhaps like incarna? __________________ A trail of feelings, of awe and inspiration, should lead him to that castle: in the future: her arms enclosing him, her scent fills him with excitement, creates a moment so strong he can remember it in the past.

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08-31-2007, 08:23 PM	#20
Taskmage 不完全の花 Administrator Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,457 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 311 Thanked 987x in 495 Posts	Re: Summoner & Wings of the Goddess Discussion Uhh, hmm. I thought I could just link a wikipedia article or something but it seems that term isn't in common use ... What I was thinking of was something between a mindless spirit and a god, but a sentient representative of an element closer to our level of existence, like a faerie or the elementals from the Seiken series. Undine for water, Sylph for wind, etc. __________________ A trail of feelings, of awe and inspiration, should lead him to that castle: in the future: her arms enclosing him, her scent fills him with excitement, creates a moment so strong he can remember it in the past.

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09-01-2007, 10:30 AM	#23
Taskmage 不完全の花 Administrator Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,457 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 311 Thanked 987x in 495 Posts	Re: Summoner & Wings of the Goddess Discussion Was it efreet in japanese? In english it was Salmando, and I never finished Seiken 3. __________________ A trail of feelings, of awe and inspiration, should lead him to that castle: in the future: her arms enclosing him, her scent fills him with excitement, creates a moment so strong he can remember it in the past.

09-01-2007, 12:30 PM	#24
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09-01-2007, 12:38 PM	#26
Taskmage 不完全の花 Administrator Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,457 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 311 Thanked 987x in 495 Posts	Re: Summoner & Wings of the Goddess Discussion No, they're not made by the same company, but they're based on the same mythology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondine_...org/wiki/Sylph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifrit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome __________________ A trail of feelings, of awe and inspiration, should lead him to that castle: in the future: her arms enclosing him, her scent fills him with excitement, creates a moment so strong he can remember it in the past.

09-04-2007, 02:19 AM	#27
emeraldpearl The Summoner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 178 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 14 Thanked 6x in 6 Posts My Mood:	Re: Summoner & Wings of the Goddess Discussion maybe pheonix will become a summonable avatar? i know that her essence was merged in CoP but with the new "travel back to the past" prehaps you can face her at full form. also the "wings" of the "goddess"? to me it sounds like they are talking about pheonix, but what do i know ^^ __________________ Emeraldpearl 75 Summoner 37 White Mage 53 Red Mage 26 White Mage Rank: 7 Currently Leveling: RDM

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