02-26-2007, 03:57 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,424 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 713 Thanked 315x in 215 Posts Gil: 92,252 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 92,252 Donate | About the 70 BP Why is it I hear that Leviathan is the best to use usually? I hear some people say it's because he does the most damage, but others have said it's just more accurate since its' only a 1-hitter.
Which is it? And why Shiva's Rush apparently suck so bad >.> ? What if all 5 hits land? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-26-2007, 06:49 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 92 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 5,929 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,929 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Levis spinning dive is the most accurate because it is a one hit BP and he has high natural ACC to begin with, it is by no means the highest DMG potential of the lvl 70 BP's. Problem with shivas is it is a five hit BP, without avatar acc gear and merits she tends to only land a few which in turn causes her DMG to be fairly weak. I have noticed that since the update to SMN skill her BP does better DMG, probably because I have SMN skill above the cap at 75 which helps the ACC of the BP. Some of them do better DMG on certain types of mobs as well, titans mountain buster pwns skeles because it is blunt, and garudas predator claws does very well on imps and other mobs weak to piercing. At 70 the DMG on all of them tends to be hit or miss, they really seemed to do a lot better at 72+. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-27-2007, 01:29 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amsterdam Netherlands Posts: 142 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14x in 7 Posts Gil: 1,712 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,712 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Originally Posted by Neppy | | Some of them do better DMG on certain types of mobs as well, titans mountain buster pwns skeles because it is blunt, and garudas predator claws does very well on imps and other mobs weak to piercing. At 70 the DMG on all of them tends to be hit or miss, they really seemed to do a lot better at 72+. | Predator Claws is slashing damage btw.
Summoner doesn't get any level 70 piercing Blood pacts.
Garuda however does seem to have the highest damage potency if all 3 hits land.
Leviathan has the best accuracy he's main choice on High evasive mobs until you get physical accuracy either through merits, equipment or summoning magic skill.
This counts for all physical blood pacts really.
Also important to note what kind of damage the BPs are.
Rush, Mountain Buster, Chaotic Strike and Flaming Crush are all blunt damage
Spinning Dive, Eclipse Bite and Predator Claws are slashing damage.  Titan Server | WHM 75 | SMN 75 (Capped Summoner merits: 01-21-2007)
San d'Oria Rank 10 - Bastok Rank 5 - Zilart Completed - CoP Completed - Aht Urhgan 32 - Lance Corporal | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-27-2007, 01:53 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Pyro-Medic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,289 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 177 Thanked 99x in 62 Posts Gil: 15,135 Bank: 31,241 Total Gil: 46,376 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP I seem to use Garuda more than any other avatar except when I'm soloing. I use Fenrir for that because his perpetuation is lower than the rest. Carbuncle couldn't keep hate off me.
I think they really need to give Carbuncle a level 70+ Blood Pact that does damage. Even though he's the healing pokemon, I still want my radioactive rat/cat do more damage. Com'n Meteor! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-27-2007, 02:21 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,424 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 713 Thanked 315x in 215 Posts Gil: 92,252 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 92,252 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Carbuncle is a squirrel. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-28-2007, 06:51 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Pyro-Medic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,289 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 177 Thanked 99x in 62 Posts Gil: 15,135 Bank: 31,241 Total Gil: 46,376 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Originally Posted by Malacite | | Carbuncle is a squirrel. | details details  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 05:23 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 46 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7x in 7 Posts Gil: 142 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 142 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Yeah, Levi and Titan are the best to use for consistent dmg on HNMs and Avatar Fights (although Fenrir does very well against most =P), but like several people have said here, merits and gear affect how others work as well. And once you attain the Lv.75 BPs through merits; some, like Meteor Strike and Wind Blade are very useful on HNMs and Gods ^_~
PC is slashing, which is why SAM/SMN/BLU pwn Imps @75 solo lol
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Eclipse Bite was piercing like Moonlit Charge oO, although the animation does suggest otherwise =P Just wanted to get clarification. Thx =)
-SM Name: Ryba →  (The Slutty Mithra) Server: Sylph ZM: 14 CoP: 2-5 ToAU: 3 Jobs: THF75 | SMN75 | RDM60 | NIN50 | BLU48 | MNK45 | WHM42 | BLM40 RNG40 | WAR38 | SAM32 | PLD29 | BRD19 | BST14 Rank: Bastok - 7 | San'dOria - 1 | Windurst - 1 Crafts: Leathercraft 94 + 1 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 58 Clothcraft 50 | Goldsmithing 50 | Alchemy 15 | Smithing 10 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 07:03 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amsterdam Netherlands Posts: 142 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14x in 7 Posts Gil: 1,712 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,712 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Originally Posted by Ryba | Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Eclipse Bite was piercing like Moonlit Charge oO, although the animation does suggest otherwise =P Just wanted to get clarification. Thx =)
-SM | Hold on there, this I indeed have to confirm, ffxiclopedia sais the same thing about it.
I always assumed it to be slashing.
I'll be sure to test it out next time we fight the Jailer of Temperance and let ya'll know unless someone is ahead of me.  Titan Server | WHM 75 | SMN 75 (Capped Summoner merits: 01-21-2007)
San d'Oria Rank 10 - Bastok Rank 5 - Zilart Completed - CoP Completed - Aht Urhgan 32 - Lance Corporal | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Shirai for above post: | | | 03-07-2007, 08:15 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 46 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7x in 7 Posts Gil: 142 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 142 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Originally Posted by Shirai | Hold on there, this I indeed have to confirm, ffxiclopedia sais the same thing about it.
I always assumed it to be slashing.
I'll be sure to test it out next time we fight the Jailer of Temperance and let ya'll know unless someone is ahead of me. | {Sweets. } Thx Shirai ^_^; Being Piercing instead of Slashing would explain why Predator Claws hits Imps alot harder than Eclipse Bite. =P
-SM Name: Ryba →  (The Slutty Mithra) Server: Sylph ZM: 14 CoP: 2-5 ToAU: 3 Jobs: THF75 | SMN75 | RDM60 | NIN50 | BLU48 | MNK45 | WHM42 | BLM40 RNG40 | WAR38 | SAM32 | PLD29 | BRD19 | BST14 Rank: Bastok - 7 | San'dOria - 1 | Windurst - 1 Crafts: Leathercraft 94 + 1 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 58 Clothcraft 50 | Goldsmithing 50 | Alchemy 15 | Smithing 10 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 08:19 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,230 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,537 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Shiva I'm convinced is Elvaan. So that may explain her poor Acc. Which sucks because it looks pretty sweet when the nekkid blue lady goes all NEENJA on mobs with Rush.
Leviathan seems to have the most consistent damage that I can tell, but I've yet to see any of the others out do a Pred. Claw. The SMN I always hang out with seems to favor P.C. over all others, but if he's main healing he just goes with Carby due to perpetuation costs.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
PS2 Beta tester - Cactaur - Rank 4
RDM32 - BLM17 - DRK11 - RNG11 - BRD9 - BST7 - WAR6 - MNK4
Lakshmi: Windurst Rank 10 - ZM14 - PM4-3 - ToAU31 - WotG3
RDM75 - DRK75 - SAM75 - MNK75 - WAR62 - BLM40 - NIN38 - RNG38 - THF37 - DRG36 - BST25 - WHM20 - PUP20 - PLD13 - BRD13 - BLU9 - DNC7 - COR5 - SMN1 - SCH1
Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 08:28 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 46 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7x in 7 Posts Gil: 142 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 142 Donate | Re: About the 70 BP Nice tdh lol The nekkid blue lady LOLz XD
Yeah she has shite acc, but she hits alot better with merits, even still though, anything over DC con she still has shotty acc lol
Yeah, PC is preferred by all SMN in exp/merit PTs =D But in God fights and most HNMs (aside from those with low Eva like Jormy), most use Diabolos, Levi, or one of the Lv.75 BPs, due to being Ranged Attack and quite a few HNMs/Kirin are kited lol
-SM Name: Ryba →  (The Slutty Mithra) Server: Sylph ZM: 14 CoP: 2-5 ToAU: 3 Jobs: THF75 | SMN75 | RDM60 | NIN50 | BLU48 | MNK45 | WHM42 | BLM40 RNG40 | WAR38 | SAM32 | PLD29 | BRD19 | BST14 Rank: Bastok - 7 | San'dOria - 1 | Windurst - 1 Crafts: Leathercraft 94 + 1 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 58 Clothcraft 50 | Goldsmithing 50 | Alchemy 15 | Smithing 10 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:02 AM. | | |