Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Comments

zzxwesxzz · 08-13-2006, 08:19 PM

Spirits are the weakest thing in the game u betteer have a lvl 75 if u wann be strong

Sabaron · 08-14-2006, 09:56 AM

Huh? Light Spirit is anything but weak--the other spirits are rather unimpressive and expensive, but since your "comment" is rather flimsy and badly stated I'll have to ask for an elaboration before I could possibly say anything about it.

Rain_Blade · 08-14-2006, 07:19 PM

All of the spirits are good. Dark spirit, however, is often overlooked. The big advantage light spirits have over avatars is speed. At lvl 45, with your smn magic capped, your spirits will cast ever 30 seconds. So that's 2 spells in 1 minute. At lvl, 55, with smn magic capped, your spirits will cast ever 20 seconds. So that's 3 spells in 1 minute. With your smn capped, calculate (75 - Summoner level) and that'll be how many seconds your spirits should be casting. Another formula is (75 - Smn magic lvl/3). This formula changes at lvl 50 though.

The disadvantage of spirits is the mp cost. At lvl 75, it'll be 18 mp per tick. You should have a large mana pool by then anyway.

Sabaron · 08-15-2006, 12:34 AM

I've only really seen Light Spirit in action (someone else's). The others I haven't tried. Since I'm only SMN30, I really haven't done a lot with them in PT because of their mp cost.

Grandsummoner_Kairos · 08-18-2006, 11:34 AM

By the time you're 75 if your skill is beyond the cap, spirits will make your avatars look very limiting and weak at times. It definately makes avatar magic more than laughable. At 75 with the gear i have, they are often more efficient than avatars. I also have 5 merits in spirit perpetuation and that brings the cost of my spirits to 8mp/tick with hq staves. On the correct day its 5mp/tick and 2mp/tick if the weather and day are the same as the avatar. There are many times where i actually find myself gaining mp back while i have the spirit out which is basically free magic and damage.

When i started playing summoner spirits were the only things used by summoners. At some point players decided that they wanted to be the only mage job that didn't have to level thier skills. For this reason avatars became more common than spirits because avatars take very little smn skill and knowledge to use.

Galaxia · 09-10-2007, 02:48 PM

Thank you!

Sorry didn't see second post.
My bad! Plz move this when you get time plz Icemage

ty

08-13-2006, 08:19 PM	#61
zzxwesxzz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Re: Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Spirits are the weakest thing in the game u betteer have a lvl 75 if u wann be strong

08-14-2006, 09:56 AM	#62
Sabaron Pink Mage Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,800 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 196 Thanked 235x in 151 Posts	Re: Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Comments Huh? Light Spirit is anything but weak--the other spirits are rather unimpressive and expensive, but since your "comment" is rather flimsy and badly stated I'll have to ask for an elaboration before I could possibly say anything about it. __________________

08-14-2006, 07:19 PM	#63
Rain_Blade Call me "Rain" Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 312 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 35 Thanked 57x in 35 Posts My Mood:	Re: Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Comments All of the spirits are good. Dark spirit, however, is often overlooked. The big advantage light spirits have over avatars is speed. At lvl 45, with your smn magic capped, your spirits will cast ever 30 seconds. So that's 2 spells in 1 minute. At lvl, 55, with smn magic capped, your spirits will cast ever 20 seconds. So that's 3 spells in 1 minute. With your smn capped, calculate (75 - Summoner level) and that'll be how many seconds your spirits should be casting. Another formula is (75 - Smn magic lvl/3). This formula changes at lvl 50 though. The disadvantage of spirits is the mp cost. At lvl 75, it'll be 18 mp per tick. You should have a large mana pool by then anyway. __________________ Aaliyah is more than a woman and she graduated with a 4.0 GPA (she only had 1 "C" grade ever in her life). I bolded and underlined the "is" just for you, Malacite.

08-15-2006, 12:34 AM	#64
Sabaron Pink Mage Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,800 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 196 Thanked 235x in 151 Posts	Re: Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Comments I've only really seen Light Spirit in action (someone else's). The others I haven't tried. Since I'm only SMN30, I really haven't done a lot with them in PT because of their mp cost. __________________

08-18-2006, 11:34 AM	#65
Grandsummoner_Kairos Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 78 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Comments By the time you're 75 if your skill is beyond the cap, spirits will make your avatars look very limiting and weak at times. It definately makes avatar magic more than laughable. At 75 with the gear i have, they are often more efficient than avatars. I also have 5 merits in spirit perpetuation and that brings the cost of my spirits to 8mp/tick with hq staves. On the correct day its 5mp/tick and 2mp/tick if the weather and day are the same as the avatar. There are many times where i actually find myself gaining mp back while i have the spirit out which is basically free magic and damage. When i started playing summoner spirits were the only things used by summoners. At some point players decided that they wanted to be the only mage job that didn't have to level thier skills. For this reason avatars became more common than spirits because avatars take very little smn skill and knowledge to use. __________________

09-10-2007, 02:48 PM	#66
Galaxia Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 411 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post My Mood:	Re: Avatar and Spirtis FAQ v. 1.2 Thank you! Sorry didn't see second post. My bad! Plz move this when you get time plz Icemage ty __________________ Character: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?86132 Fenrir Won: 11/08/2006 Diablos Won: 07/03/2007 Last edited by Galaxia; 09-10-2007 at 02:48 PM. Reason: Mistake

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