[Akiro]

I have 2 Astral Rings ready to put on but i am kinda afraid to looking at my HP being around 80 at lvl 9 i dont want to be stuck with 30 HP and be a 1 hit KO so are there any thoughts as to when i can actually wear these death traps?

[Galaxia]

Since your a Taru you will have nice MP anyway

So around lv 14-15 would be a good idea to wear them

[Feenicks]

Or just wear one. I wore only one Astral from Lv10 onwards because the HP loss was too great for me to handle.

[Akiro]

Thanks,i'll wear just 1 then and bring some Juice to help with the MP and some chocolates for MP regening

[Navia]

I only wore 1 astral myself, its way too easy to have a goblin bomb or something else turn you into a 1hit wonder.
Someone using juice without astrals is just as good as, but usually better than someone with a huge mp pool and small HP until you are past 40s where a RDM will be refreshing you.
Then it will matter if you have elemental staves to cut avatar perpetuation, dark staff for faster mp recover and so on.
When I have died as SMN, I always had mp left over, the number of times when you die and have no MP will probably be nonexistent unless you have a puller that doesn't pay attention to the mages MP bars.

I see alot of highlevel taru SMN wearing MP to HP equipment, trying to survive a meteor strike from behemoth or nasty highlevel -ga spells no doubt.
There is a +15mp ring with no minus HP on it that is a good astral alternative, but has a higher level requirement.

[Artonis]

heh, I'd kill for 2x astrals at 10, they're almost 1mil each though now.

Granted as SMN12/WHM6 I have a little more than 160 HP.
That's right, 160 HP. More HP than the hume RNG I duo with

I'm going on a cookie spam right now, pies are useless for me, so I spam cookies and refil my MP pool in a hurry.

[sudo]

I use astrals for an entirely different reason.

I like lowest perpetuation cost possible so I have macroed in eq swaps that will bring my Hp down to yellow.

Put on gold hairpin, -13
2x astrals -50
star necklace (when i get that high)

to hurt myself.

then swap out to

pigeon earrings/physical earring (if you are poor) +50 HP
shield pendent or promise badge +20/10
Bomb queen ring when I get there (i have it just can't use it yet on the smn) for +75
Opo-crown (have, can't use) +50 (swap on with asture hat between bp's)
RSE (version 2 is too expensive) (gloves [cept when using carbuncle but he's already free so this applies to other avatars], shoes, I keep AF pants.
Steeple belt +40
and Smn JSE lv 50 ring

I basically "converted" but done gimply cause rdm sub can't do it.

That's a difference currently of 63+110 = 173 hp

With crown and bomb queen I can swap out 298 hp. After evoker's ring, I'll only be able to swap 223 hp effectively. This should still put me into yellow at least for a while before auto regen brings me back up but I can always hurt myself some more with the eq swaps again.

Good thing taru have lower hp's XD
If I was a galka I'll need to hurt myself even more. Dunno what eq is left to do that with though.

It's a lot of trouble for -1 mp but I'm bored and had nothing better to do with my gear.

[poweryoga]

not sure why you'd want to do all that to lower your perpetuation cost by 1. IMO its not worth it because avatars eat too much mp by being out anyways. :p

[Duryza]

Originally posted by Galaxia
Since your a Taru you will have nice MP anyway

So around lv 14-15 would be a good idea to wear them

No offence, but your sig hurts my eyes. O_o

[sudo]

lol ya I know it's totally not worth it all for just 1 perpetuation cost.

But frankly I'm bored with smn equips. There's almost no variety in what we can use.

I just want to experiment with something, ANYTHING, unique to get even the tinyiest bit out of this job.

But! It's really funny to do in an exp pt.
Just have to coach the other mages in the pt to not heal you when you "convert"

I mean all we talk about is this bp, that bc.

Other forums talk about equips. We're kind of nailed with just the asture and AF combo with HQ staffs. We never really get to pick cause nothing else comes close to being as effective. I just want to do some neat things with the other 10 slots in my equipment list.

[poweryoga]

i have enough crap in my inventories that i don't even want to think about experimenting with this x_x

2 sets of completely different equipment + 4 types of foods + 15 slots for ammo synthing + random crap+crystals+rare/ex...

orz