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Old 12-15-2007, 09:11 AM   #16
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Agreed. As near as I can tell, the only Barstatus that has any noticable effect is Barparalyze, due to it lowering the proc rate of Paralyzes that land while it's up. Maybe Barblind reduces the accuracy penalty from Blind too; I dunno as I'm no front-liner. Silence, though, is on-or-off; a small chance of a modest reduction in duration is thus not gonna cut it. -- Pteryx
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:38 PM   #17
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a small chance of a modest reduction in duration is thus not gonna cut it.
If it worked 100%, then there would be no need for the drops at all.

But honestly its such a small detail to devote a derail to.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:06 PM   #18
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If it worked 100%, then there would be no need for the drops at all.
I agree that just making the Barstatuses for on-or-off ailments grant complete immunity is a bit much. A 25% chance of a total resist, though, would be well worth casting the spell over. -- Pteryx
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I'd say between 50-75% maximum resist rates would be plenty fair. WHM is supposed to be the undisputed master of healing and protecting the party after all (well, alongside PLD)
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The barstatus spells we have now are low enough levels that /WHM can use them just as well. That's why whenever WHM improvement threads come up, someone (sometimes me) suggests barstatus II spells, which would be more effective *and WHM 38+*.

Anyway... Stoneskinga and Blinkga are nothing SMN can't already do on a 1 min shared timer instead of 4 min. SCH needs some unique tricks to call its own and I'm not sure Regenga II is going to be enough.
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Adding a second tier to bars-element spells would be a tad overpowered with you consider the existance of BRD's Carols and the elemental resistance gear out there. WARs can tank through Wyrms elemental attacks with those spells on, after all. I've also averted many deadly Hobgoblin Bomb Tosses with Barfira and Fire Carol on my BRD. That's not to mention the benefits of using these against mobs like the Bomb Queen, Bahamut and Celestial Avatars.

That said, I think you're overlooking the fact that SCH can assimilate various roles in a PT more capably than a SMN could. If you're a SCH and a SMN is in PT, that SMN no longer has to worry about main heal or always rehashing the same pact. They can cover status cures and you can put that MP towards Curing/Enfeebling/Nuking. If I have a WHM or RDM Main Healer, I can shift to the role of BLM better than a RDM would. If we have a RDM that wants to do something besides main heal, I can do that capably.

I think I only take issue that SCH has no main job enfeebles, yet it gets a modest amount of main job enhancing magic. Not having Bind natively limits its solo capability a little and I think couple more job traits could be beneficial. SCH definately isn't hurting on spell options or job abilities otherwise.
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