12-09-2007, 12:11 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Prostitute Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA, USA Posts: 24 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 14 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,096 Bank: 502 Total Gil: 3,598 Donate | Helixes? As said by wiki "The spell does some amount of initial damage- Whatever amount of damage is done by the spell is how much damage it will cause on each of its ticks." Now how much damage are we talking about? 7? 20? What? because if these spells don't at least do the amount that Bio II/III do per tick, imo it would be almost worthless.
Also do the spells stack like the Ele DoT? and one more thing, the ability Modus Veritas suggests, to me, Helixes have a set amount of time, Do they? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-09-2007, 12:26 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,488 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 737 Thanked 318x in 218 Posts Gil: 98,053 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 98,053 Donate | Re: Helixes? They last a minute 30 by default I believe, someone did some good testing over @ BG. http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/vie...p?f=53&t=27007
In summary, every INT seems to add 1 point of damage to each Helix. And sadly no, they don't stack at all, just overwrite each other. Also casting the corresponding storm on yourself prior to the Helix will boost damage.
Still no word yet how well these spells work on HNMs. It sucks ass for SCH though that you can't stack them ; ; especially since you could stack up to 4 elements otherwise. But then I guess SE didn't want SCH soloing PSC Lebross Cavern >_>p | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Malacite for above post: | | | 12-09-2007, 12:45 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Prostitute Join Date: May 2006 Location: CA, USA Posts: 24 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 14 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,096 Bank: 502 Total Gil: 3,598 Donate | Re: Helixes? Originally Posted by Malacite | They last a minute 30 by default I believe, someone did some good testing over @ BG. http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/vie...p?f=53&t=27007
In summary, every INT seems to add 1 point of damage to each Helix. And sadly no, they don't stack at all, just overwrite each other. Also casting the corresponding storm on yourself prior to the Helix will boost damage.
Still no word yet how well these spells work on HNMs. It sucks ass for SCH though that you can't stack them ; ; especially since you could stack up to 4 elements otherwise. But then I guess SE didn't want SCH soloing PSC Lebross Cavern >_>p | LMAO I never thought about that! XD They will be awesome at it especially /BLM :D
but 73 dmg is pretty nice ^^ even though it was on really low lvl mobs... But thanks for the link! I appreciate it! I'm glad that my Modus Veritas suspicion was correct, a LOT longer then I expected tho. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-10-2007, 05:53 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Dictionary FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warrior Posts: 1,532 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 125 Thanked 214x in 130 Posts Gil: 8,460 Bank: 30,085 Total Gil: 38,545 Donate | Re: Helixes? I'm not gonna follow that link to confirm, but those tests were done naked + 1-2 pieces of gear to control the environment, right? So imagine what a SCH with incredible +INT, incredible +MAB gear could do. I don't think 70-80 on exp mobs is out of the question... We'll see. Originally Posted by Taskmage | Women = Time x Money
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At 75, I see 70-100 DoTs depending on Mob.
PSC Lebros Cavern with a group of SCH's is gonna be like cast a helix, go afk >.> 
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Rock Crusher looks to be very amusing indeed, unless it turns out those rocks are resistant to Helixes... Wii Number - 2810 2423 4673 3261 - Please PM me if you add me!
How to ask smart questions: catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Boom! (On SCH75/RDM) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-10-2007, 07:20 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,575 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 152 Thanked 179x in 117 Posts Gil: 13,159 Bank: 71,148 Total Gil: 84,307 Donate | Re: Helixes? I'm going to go out on a limb and hypothesize that, in Rock Crusher, the rocks will resist the basic damage of a helix just like they resist the basic damage of a regular nuke--The helix will hit for say 1-5 damage and you'll just get an extra basic DoT effect, but you'll still be getting much faster wall death. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-10-2007, 12:09 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,540 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 84x in 23 Posts Gil: 37,780 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 37,780 Donate | Re: Helixes? Just throwing this out there. . . . has anyone MB a Helix spell? I wonder if the additional DMG from MBing a Helix spell applies to the regular ticks. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-10-2007, 04:28 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,488 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 737 Thanked 318x in 218 Posts Gil: 98,053 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 98,053 Donate | Re: Helixes? I'm sure the initial damage will get scaled back for Lebross Walls, but there's still Ebullience, Elemental Seal and Modus Veritas to back up a SCH. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:23 AM. | | |