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Old 11-25-2007, 09:12 PM   #16
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

Yeah I was wondering why the hell I was able to repeatedly use the ability and why it said -2 charges >_ >
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:37 PM   #17
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

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Regarding Healing Skill and BLU: I did a bit of testing way back when I levelled BLU many months ago and I found that my Healing Breeze was far stronger using /WHM than other subs. It was a night-and-day kind of thing, too big a difference for any amount of +MND from /WHM sub to make. But I didn't think it was that important (seeing as I was just confirming what was apparently common knowledge) and don't have any recorded numbers or screenshots to back it up.
I looked up a few things, and it appears that the BLU spells vary in how they're affected by stats, but it looks like Healing Skill does have an effect on the BLU healing spells!

Quite an intriguing combo that being the case.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:12 AM   #18
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

BLU/SCH ftw?

No Curaga II or ~na spells though. Magic Fruit should sky rocket though!

and SE said they wanted SCH to be a very good SJ, so I doubt this will get nerfed.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:15 AM   #19
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

actually, a whm with dark staff equipped can aspir/drain better than a blm without it... back in the day before I had my dark staff doing crabs with a whm in pt, they would constantly aspir for more MP than I did... Once I got my dark staff I noticed an increased success rate, and higher numbers. And if you're really desperate, just use ES on it...
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actually, a whm with dark staff equipped can aspir/drain better than a blm without it... back in the day before I had my dark staff doing crabs with a whm in pt, they would constantly aspir for more MP than I did... Once I got my dark staff I noticed an increased success rate, and higher numbers. And if you're really desperate, just use ES on it...
Hmm? This is so very not true. Even with Dark Staff and an Abyssal Earring (+5 Dark Magic) equipped, Aspir and Drain tend to land for single digits as WHM/BLM without Elemental Seal, unless the target is desperately weak against Dark Magic.


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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

maybe they were only doing it once/10 minutes and you just missed them using Elemental Seal first.
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

Well something interesting that I noticed is that not only did light and dark arts decrease casting time for their respective spells, they also seemed to affect recast times. Just something to throw out, makes using it as a whm sub seem more attractive.

Going from Dark->Light arts..
Stoneskin goes from 30sec>22sec, a roughly 8 sec difference between the two.

Interesting :D
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

Can someone explain this charge thing? How am I able to go to -2?

What I mean is sometimes when I use it threw the macro it tells me I have 9:50 left and then other times it activates (and I know for sure that it hasn't been 9:50). When I check in the menu it either says -1 or -2 next to charge.

This has really gotten me confused.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:42 PM   #24
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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

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or penury depending on your current art.

It bypasses the restriction from your strategems list and lets you use up all 3 charges.

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The way the JAs work is, they're on a 4 minute timer, which means you can use them every 4 minutes. If you expend 3 of them which is your max "stock", it'll be 12 minutes before you get all 3 back. You SHOULD only have 1 charge before level 40 or whatever it is, that would limit you to one per 4 minutes no matter what. However, it's broken and lets you go under 0 charges to a "max" of -2, giving you 3 charges effectively to use at your whim. Instead of 0 to 3 the counter is -2 to 0.

The timer may be broken below 2 and say 12 minutes or whatever it says, but just think of it this way: If you're not at -2, you still have one available. It's when you hit -2 that you can't use anymore. The charge goes back to -1 at the 8 minute mark on the recast.

So it's:

-2 charges at 12 mins (can't use any charges)
-1 charge at 8 mins (you can use one now, since 4 minutes have passed)

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Re: Scholar as a support job. (Nerf imminent?)

If you do it by macro you also bypass the 1 minute recast on Stratagems, it's clearly broken and I'm sure SE will fix this, most likely in tomorrow's update.
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