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Old 11-03-2008, 10:07 AM   #1
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my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

my sam has full great katana merits + bushinomomi.

when i ws, i have +34 accuracy:

optical hat (10)
potent belt (8)
chivalrous chain (5)
uthalam's ring (4)
shura haidate (7)

not to mention on top of that: additional +22 dexterity

Yet, I find my tachi:gekko/kasha will miss on occasion, even on mobs that are too weak like lv.44-46 shadows in Fei'yin, undead garm in nyzul, or easy prey orcs in davoi.

missing on too week/easy prey mobs is just lame, i dont know whats wrong.

anyone have any clues?

or is this just a doom factor in having a 1 shot hit ws...
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:21 AM   #2
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

You can never have a 100% hit rate. It caps at 95%.

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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

I think the mellee cap on acc is 95% chance to hit. No matter how much +ACC you have, 100% is unattainable.

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Correction, the only time your mellee attack is 100% is with sneak attack, and that only applys to the first swing, and you must be behind your enemy
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

Accuracy in this game (and most RPGs for that matter) caps at around 95% (FF8 went up to 256 which was retarded...). There's always going to be that small chance to miss an enemy. The only way to completely ensure a hit is with Sneak Attack for SAM so don't let it bother you.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:03 PM   #5
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

Like everyone else said, there's always a chance that you'll miss, no matter what gear you have. The same applies to spells and resists. Hell, I resisted on a giddeus bee with petasos and elemental gear once... Flukes will always happen.
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:39 PM   #6
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

Most of SAM's WS are only 1 hit. Other jobs miss just as much, but they have to fail especially hard in order to miss all 4-8 hits in their WS's.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:30 AM   #7
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

Define "sometimes" and "miss on occasion" how often? Like the others said, it's not 100%, but if your missing 50% of the time, something is amiss.<---haha!
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:27 AM   #8
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

Show me a parse or I'll never trust your "find".

YGK, as well as other 1-hit 2hander WSes, are known to have accuracy bonus on it. I have much less accuracy on my TPing set compared to WS set, yet I can show you my parse I hit 94-97% of my WS on merit mob while my TP set only give me 83% on GColibri camp only.

Additionally, YGK have pDIF bonus too, which allow the user to load as much STR as possible instead of atk.
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:18 AM   #9
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

thanx for the help guys. i didnt know about the 95% max rule. i enjoy this game as much as the next person, but i've never taken the time to read all the stat calculations.

i dont parse either, try not to download too many things off the net.

just out of curiosity, may i ask what kind of gear you guys have on SAM?

Especially VZX's gear i'm quite curious.
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:43 AM   #10
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

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i dont parse either, try not to download too many things off the net.


Even though the internet is 99.9% Virii, there's no need not to download from it. j/k

You do need a parser though to be sure of your calculations. If I hadn't saw the parse I got on BLU the other day, I wouldn't have believed it myself.
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

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just out of curiosity, may i ask what kind of gear you guys have on SAM?
For TP gain, i ussssssee

hagun
Walmart Turban
Hauby
Forager's Mantle
Swift Belt
kitty pants
sarutobi feet
rajas
flame
hachimon kote
brutal earring
bushinomimi
justice torque
smart grenade
mythral grip +1

Having a 6-hit TP build is very nice to have for samurai. More weaponskills always mean more fun. Saving up for the +1 kote atm.

WS:

Shura head
Osode
foragers mantle
Warwolf belt
shura legs
Myochin Kote +1
RSE feet
rajas
flame
justice torque
bushinomimi
brutal earring
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Most of SAM's WS are only 1 hit. Other jobs miss just as much, but they have to fail especially hard in order to miss all 4-8 hits in their WS's.
. _ . this happened to me once as WAR/NIN with rampage on a VT imp...

I still don't know how it happened. I even had Sushi yet through some sheer BS fluke I missed all 8 hits...


Ranks right up there with the time I died from 12 consecutive counter attacks in campaign >_> Orcish Counterstance is BROKEN.
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

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I still don't know how it happened. I even had Sushi yet through some sheer BS fluke I missed all 8 hits...
Unless you have magical electro-psychic powers and can tell when a 100% whiffed WS gets Double Attack procs, I imagine you meant all 6 hits.

Well, when you do at least a hundred WS per party it was bound to happen eventually.
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Re: my sam is LOADED with ACC, but WS sometimes still miss, why?

It's been ages since it happened but if I'm not mistaken double attack will occur regardless of landing the previous hit. But yeah I know what you mean (rampage does go up to 8 hits though)
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