02-06-2007, 04:27 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,309 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,309 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws oh and my gear , the pin n boots are rare ex. look up the name ull see its the rare ex version n the gloves i also spend countless hours hunting that danm dee so dont insult me by saying that i buy gil | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 04:28 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,309 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,309 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws theres no hole, the hole thing its about t.a wich u say its a lvl 30 thf abil, wich is not, sneak attack is a lvl 30 thf abil | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 04:29 PM | #18 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,211 Bank: 319 Total Gil: 3,531 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws Originally Posted by luisa | | trick attack is lvl 15 u dufus lvl 30 is sata | Wrong, and right. Trick Attack is Lv.30, and that's why SATA is Lv.30. Sneak Attack is at Lv.15. Originally Posted by luisa | | and one more thing as a 47 sam/thf i do around 340-522 trick attack depending on my tp, and just in case u think im joking u should try it, with the gear i have and the food i use, empress, bounding boots, okote, lvl 45 body armor that gives dex+. 2 str rings with str +3, 2 attack + earrings, the necklace that gives dex n str, leg amor lvl 44 that gives dex, lvl 44 gkt, and ricedumplins, some of the name of the gear i use i dont know the names so i just say what they do, also i use the sword belt that gives att+10, n normally i dont do t.a until about 230+ and i use tachi enpi, any more q, just ask | At Lv.45, having access to Sneak Attack is nice because it make sure you don't miss your WS if you stay behind the mob, and it can put out some really nice numbers. But WAR sub can do those same numbers, just not with the regularity that Sneak Attack can provide. All Great Katana WS's have a STR modifier, if I'm not mistaking, so loading up on STR before WS can increase your WS numbers significantly. At Lv.45 I load up on STR+18 from gear, STR+5 from Sushi, and I'm Elvaan so that's a pretty decent amount of STR for WS. I've done 400's with /WAR, and I've also done 400's with /THF while in Phomiuna Aqueducts on a Subligar run.
/THF will insure you actually land your WS, and makes it a critical hit for the 1st hit of the WS, and can do quite a bit of damage. But you do not have have Trick Attack at Lv.47 SAM, and Trick Attack does not modifier damage in anyway unless you are a THF main job.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot Last edited by tdh : 02-06-2007 at 04:29 PM. Reason: Cursed typos! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 04:32 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 2,287 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 5,453 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws Thf sub usually wins when my ws fails me but they can only do those numbers once every 1minute. I can do it every 15-20s which is more DoT. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 04:35 PM | #20 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,309 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,309 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws this was written on a thread on this web site,
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I Sub'd RNG up to Lv.15. I was trying to do anything I could contribute to the party's damage. Then Lv.15 and Sneak Attack Fast Blade tried it's best to get my killed! Either way I was having a ton of fun! Keep it up. Took me forever to actually get to Lv.15, I solo'd most of it because I felt like a EXP leech.
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well maybe i have the names mixed up , but this proves that at lvl 15 u get sneak attack, wich allows me to use it at lvl 30+, sorry if i got the names confused, wich i admit i did, but other than that lvl 38 sam/thf doing 300- 400+ s.a is poss and very douable | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 04:40 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,309 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,309 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws hey i heard about a lvl 48 gkt, that has hidden abil is this true? i was wondering cuz i saw its price and its about 1 mil at ah at bahamut, any one knows if this gkt is worth trying to get or just put up with what i have til lvl 50 rare ex gkt? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 04:52 PM | #22 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,211 Bank: 319 Total Gil: 3,531 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws Originally Posted by luisa | | hey i heard about a lvl 48 gkt, that has hidden abil is this true? i was wondering cuz i saw its price and its about 1 mil at ah at bahamut, any one knows if this gkt is worth trying to get or just put up with what i have til lvl 50 rare ex gkt? | To the best of my knowledge there isn't a GKT that has some hidden effect in it, but that doesn't mean there isn't. I just haven't come across it.
I plan to use SAM AF1 for the STR until Koryukagemitsu or a Soboro. From talking to a few Lv.75 SAMs, replacing AF1 at Lv.44 with the Mikazuki wouldn't hurt, but is by no means necessary. So I plan to swing my AF1 until Lv.50, and replace it with at the very least the Koryukagemitsu, and if I have the Soboro I can use it in certain instances.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 05:53 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,309 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,309 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws whats the stats on the Koryukagemitsu, i might have over looked atthat one, oh and sorry if i cant go look at the links for info, im using a gov pc, n this is the only site i can acces the have any ff11 info on it | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 06:12 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,211 Bank: 319 Total Gil: 3,531 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws Koryukagemitsu has a DPS of almost 9, and STR +1 Accuracy +2 on top of it. So the Acc doesn't hurt, but isn't going to break the bank, nor will that STR+1, but when stacked up with other gear it can help. I've heard a few SAMs really rave about this GKT, and at one point it was nearly 2M, thankfully now it's just under 300k. Now that it's affordable, I plan to pick one up when the time comes.
On another note, the GKT just looks sweet. It looks longer than other GKTs and the hilt doesn't look half bad either. ^^  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 06:26 PM | #25 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 64 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,309 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,309 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws that sounds cool, thanks for the info, is this item a drop item or is it made? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-06-2007, 06:48 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,584 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 181 Thanked 112x in 71 Posts Gil: 19,667 Bank: 72,967 Total Gil: 92,634 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws Look on Somepage for DPS.  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-07-2007, 04:52 PM | #28 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,211 Bank: 319 Total Gil: 3,531 Donate | Re: Trick attack + Ws  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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