09-06-2006, 09:02 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 859 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 11 Thanked 21x in 15 Posts Gil: 19,594 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 19,594 Donate | GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack Does anyone have a list of which GK weapon skills work with Sneak Attack? I just managed to level my THF to the full sub level and would like to figure out which ones work with SA | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 09:06 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 1,411 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,577 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack Any weaponskill that is not elemental will work with Sneak Attack. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 09:34 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,287 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,287 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack the main ones you will want to use are
enpi, jinpu, gekko, and kasha.
i forget if yukikaze gets used with SA... Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 10:08 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 859 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 11 Thanked 21x in 15 Posts Gil: 19,594 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 19,594 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack I thought Jinpu was a wind element ws? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 10:55 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 146 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,207 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,207 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack Jinpu is wind elemental, Yukikazy (sp?)... i see many SAMs use it with SA.
Dragoon75 | Beastmaster75 | Thief69 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 11:18 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Dictionary FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warrior Posts: 1,548 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 128 Thanked 220x in 133 Posts Gil: 10,017 Bank: 37,407 Total Gil: 47,424 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack yar, omni almost had it. Take his list and replace Jinpu with Yukikaze and you have every SA-able GK WS (<-- too many acronyms).
Err technically Tachi:Hobaku also stacks with SA. That is, if you want your Stun WS to deal about 50% more damage and be sure not to miss... Originally Posted by Taskmage | Women = Time x Money
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Women = Evil | Last edited by Lmnop : 09-06-2006 at 11:20 AM. Reason: Missed one! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 11:32 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,314 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 3,335 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,335 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack Answer first; ALL GKatana WS' work w/ SA.
GKatana WS' make exceptions to the definition that Aeolus gave. Taking GK WS' into consideration, it's rather correct to say "any 100%-hit WS' don't work w/ SA. All others do."
Before GKatanas were implemented, in other words before RoZ, all elemental WS' were also 100%-hit, so Aeolus's definition was correct at that time. But w/ the introduction of GKatana and its WS', it held no longer true.
All WS' fall under one of the 4 categories below;
1. Physical
2. Elemental (Physical)
3. Elemental (Magical)
4. Special (i.e. Spirits Within)
Those WS' in the categories 1 and 2 work w/ SA, and only 4 GK WS' fall under 2. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 11:48 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 943 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 236 Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,649 Bank: 81,386 Total Gil: 83,035 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack All G.Katana WS stacks with Sneak Attack. When used during xp parties, you will see the increase of damage.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
Race: Hume Rank 7
75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 66 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 11:57 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,287 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,287 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack better yet, why dont you just try them out for yourself? :p Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 12:19 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 943 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 236 Thanked 69x in 61 Posts Gil: 1,649 Bank: 81,386 Total Gil: 83,035 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack As bside from above post mentioned, all Magical WS has 100% accuracy. Weapons skills like Burning Blade (sword), Spirit Within (sword), Gust Slash (dagger), are magical: They always land on the mob. G.Katana WS like Tachi: Jinpu does not have 100% accuracy, even the description said it does two wind attack, it is not Magical WS. You can view it as a Physical WS that has elemental property in it.
If you see a WS that can miss on a mob, it is very likely that it can stack with Sneak Attack. However, not every WS that stack with Sneak Attack would give zomg high damage.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
Race: Hume Rank 7
75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 66 MNK, 50 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 12:58 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Dictionary FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warrior Posts: 1,548 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 128 Thanked 220x in 133 Posts Gil: 10,017 Bank: 37,407 Total Gil: 47,424 Donate | Re: GK weaponskills + Sneak Attack I had heard this concept before but honestly, I never noticed much of a damage increase. I suppose I'll bust out Sam and GK and go play around (hah, when I reactivate)... Also, while I've always wondered about Blade:Chi and Tachi:Jinpu for being 2-fold, I've actually never seen a Kaiten or a Kagero miss.
Mayhaps it's because +attack does very little for elemental WSs (effect of a critical hit is basically a super-drived attack bonus with a higher cap, no?) since it's checked against magic defense instead... i dunno. TESTY! GO! Originally Posted by Taskmage | Women = Time x Money
Time = Money => Women = Money x Money
Women = Money^2
Money = √Evil => Women = (√Evil)^2
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