06-19-2006, 06:12 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 62 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,292 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,292 Donate | Aspiring Samurai Well over the weekend I hit level 30 and also have been gathering up gear for my journey to 75.
But I just want to make sure it's smooth sailing. I got my O.Kotes, Jujitsu Gi, and I camped Bugbear strongman for the Shinimusa Haidate lvl50 Store TP+6. Also wearing Balance Ring+Rajas Ring until I hit 40. I have woodsman ring to replace the Balance. And I got a Soboro GK for when I hit 50.
I've been gathering up gear before I need it. Also got some AF2 and AF1+1 items to repare for that when I get there.
So I was just wondering if there are any armor or weapons to look for on my way up. lol
Also, wondering how often Zanshin takes effect? Good enough to forgo Sushi and just have ATK Food? My main job is DRK so I use a bit of both depending on what I'm fighting.
I've read up on Meditate so I'm sure I can use it effectively.
Also I tossed my Mumieto lol Am I able to get it back to do AF1? Or am I SOL? Last edited by Hustler_One : 06-19-2006 at 06:21 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 06:44 AM | #2 (permalink) | | RABBITGAME Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,895 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 84 Thanked 216x in 166 Posts Gil: 25,517 Bank: 9,810 Total Gil: 35,327 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai When you start AF1 you can purchase another Mumieto from an NPC for 30,000G.
The big ticket items are Ochiudo's Kote, Jujitsu Gi, and Fuma Kyhan, with those you'll be set for a while. There's also the level 50 JSE chest quest in Phomiuna Aqueducts. It seems like you've got all your equipment covered for the most part, but I'd also make sure I have /War, /Thf, and /Rng leveled up for the hell of it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 06:58 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 62 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,292 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,292 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai Yeah I have all three subjobs leveled.
I leveled /war /thf /nin for DRK as subs. And since I had /nin ready. I went ahead and did /rng ahead of time. Though that was before the patch where they messed with the ranged attacks.
Is /rng still viable? Since we're always in melee. Do the WS do as decent enough damage as before?
I was thinking of just going mostly /war since I have the Soboro. And /thf if the party really needs it. I haven't put too much thought into /rng since that patch. lol | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 08:42 AM | #4 (permalink) | | RABBITGAME Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,895 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 84 Thanked 216x in 166 Posts Gil: 25,517 Bank: 9,810 Total Gil: 35,327 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai I hear it's still pretty good because you can just Meditate, back up a bit, and fire them off pretty quickly. Skillchain options might be a bit limited, but with the Soboro you'd be firing one off every minute or so.
It's still probably a more situational sub job, but interesting nonetheless. You'd learn Sidewinder at 57 as Samurai, as opposed to 55 as a Ranger. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 11:17 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 101 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,993 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,993 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai I hear that the O Kote is very overrated for samurai, if i purchase one i will probably sell it later just to buy a Haubergeon. i also dont plan on doing any AF other than the AF GK and the head piece, imo sam AF just is not very good. i definitly recomment a hauby tho, very nice body piece | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 11:21 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 62 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,292 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,292 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai Yeah I have a Haubergeon+1 from my DRK job.
Also max STR merits / crit rates | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 11:26 AM | #7 (permalink) | | RABBITGAME Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,895 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 84 Thanked 216x in 166 Posts Gil: 25,517 Bank: 9,810 Total Gil: 35,327 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai | Originally Posted by IxX3xil3d0n3XxI | | I hear that the O Kote is very overrated for samurai, if i purchase one i will probably sell it later just to buy a Haubergeon. i also dont plan on doing any AF other than the AF GK and the head piece, imo sam AF just is not very good. i definitly recomment a hauby tho, very nice body piece | If you're really dedicated to the job you'll obtain all pieces. Cutting corners is weak and for Bards. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 12:52 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,389 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 90 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 8,828 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,828 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai Sam AF legs is a good piece too. has +STR iirc. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 01:17 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,205 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,098 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai I'm too OCD not to get all of my AF (even if I don't necessarily get it right when I need it). Plus, AF Storage can't be undervalued. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 01:37 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 1,768 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,768 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai | Originally Posted by ImpactionActionHero | | Cutting corners is weak and for Bards. | .....
To topic starter: Well I can't answer your Zanshin question and all the gear has already been said(fuma kya, JSE body brigad quest). With your gear setup so far you seem just fine. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 02:40 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,389 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 90 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 8,828 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,828 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai heh, i dont think he meant that to insult brds if thats what you are thinking.
my guess is that since brd af isnt as useful. theres maybe 2 pieces that are ok (legs and hands), but other than that, brd af doesnt really do anything for the job like other afs do and thats why brds tend to not bother with af unless for novelty's sake. I know a few brds that didnt even bother getting their AF and spent time getting items like gaudy harness or minstrel's coat. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 02:53 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 536 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 1,768 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,768 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai reminds me of thief AF pants. only thing i really need. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-20-2006, 02:50 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 228 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 228 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai FYI, Exiled, If you wanna get only the Samurai AF Helm, you have to get the feet in order to start the quest for the helm. And the Great Katana, but why WOULDNT you get that? Just letting you know so you dont pull out your hair trying to figure out why Jaucabrix wont give you the quest, lol. ( ^^)b | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-20-2006, 10:08 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Super Moderator Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aurora, CO. Posts: 1,955 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 9,975 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,975 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai | Originally Posted by ImpactionActionHero |
The big ticket items are Ochiudo's Kote, Jujitsu Gi, and Fuma Kyhan, with those you'll be set for a while. | Actually, with a 450 delay GKT, Fuma Kyahan are fairly worthless without haste at that level, I would avoid buying them all together to be honest. Here's a list of the haste and the amount of hits it will net you in a 50 and 60 second interval.
50 Second Fight - 6 Hits Standard
Hits - Haste
7 - 4.76%
8 - 16.67%
9 - 29.93%
10 - 33.33%
11 - 39.39%
12 - 44.44%
13 - 48.72%
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60 Second Fight - 8 Hits Standard
Hits - Haste
9 - 11.11%
10 - 20.0%
11 - 27.27%
12 - 33.33%
13 - 38.46%
14 - 42.86%
15 - 46.67%
16 - 50.0%
Also, Ochidos Kote, I duno how people get on this kick that they're over-rated. +20 attack at that level is perhaps one of the best single things you could do to improve your overall damage. Sure they're often ridiculously expensive nowadays, but cost aside they are the best handpiece you could be wearing, for a very long time.
EDIT: Haste chart given to me by Dalrek of Midgardsomr Last edited by Nodachi : 06-20-2006 at 10:16 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-20-2006, 02:27 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 175 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 175 Donate | Re: Aspiring Samurai On the topic of zanshin, it kicks in fairly often if you miss the initial swing but I wouldn't rely on it heavily for making up on lack of accuracy. I'd still use sushi or other food that will give +att/str and +dex/acc. Once you get a haubergeon (you said you had +1) you could test how well your acc goes with different foods and determine which you want to go with. Especially important to do that depending on the type of mobs you will be fighting (acc more for IT++++ mobs and not so much if you are fighting IT-- or VT type mobs).
I'd suggest doing all of the af pieces also...sure the body isn't that great but having the full set allows you to store the gear in the case that you have or end up having multiple af sets for jobs. I liked using the af pants, boots, gloves, and helm for different occassions but it's more dependent on what pieces you have available to you.
Later on, you probably already know but snagging up a hachiman domaru is a nice little bonus at 70 for your str modifier with yukikaze, gekko, kasha so it's another piece you'll want to snag once you get up there.
Overall, I think you are better prepared than I was for the most part when I was that level lol. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:29 AM. | | |