06-17-2006, 05:57 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 101 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,959 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,959 Donate | Soboro Sukihiro Im finishing lvling thf soon for sam sub later on(i hate stopping to lvl a sub job) and i saw the GK Soboro Sukihiro and had a few questions about it. obviously it has great potiental just wanna know more=
1) is it hard to get? I have some 75's in my LS that can lend a hand
2) where is it? i was the area something like Rivera site # i dunno where that is or how to get there
3) around what lvl does the dmg of the GK start to render it useless? or is it good all the way?
4) in your opinion is it worth it to get? i hear its quite good for /rng but im doing /war and /thf
Thanks for the help ^^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-17-2006, 06:01 PM | #2 (permalink) | | ONE WAY Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,919 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 90 Thanked 235x in 176 Posts Gil: 33,112 Bank: 19,234 Total Gil: 52,345 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro You must trade Cluster Tar to a ??? in Riverne Site #B01, which is capped at level fifty, so your level seventy-five friends wont be of so much help. It takes about six to twelve peole to take it down, the more the merrier obvoiusly, but I've heard of six people doing it. It's got about a 50% drop rate, which is nice, and can last all the up through the sixties until the Hagun. It works best for /Rng and /War subs, but not so well for /Thf. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2006, 05:05 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Red means I love you Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 3,177 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 81 Thanked 225x in 133 Posts Gil: 840 Bank: 48,980 Total Gil: 49,820 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Just a lil somethin:
Dont let it auto-destruct.
It can blow up 3 times, each time the drop rate decreases, apparently. If it blows up completely, you get nothing.
So.. better get stunners. BLU seems like a good job for the deed, and BLM, and DRK, and people with Stun WSs. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 06:57 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 62 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,380 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,380 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro I did this yesterday. I suggest you take a THF with you aswell for ensured drops.
We were 5/5 on drops.
We did it with about 15 people. It was a walk in park so long as you have at least 2-3 stunners. Anyone engaging the Unstable Cluster should have /nin It likes to spam Circle of Flame. We used a NIN and PLD tanking team. They did very well. Very few deaths.
As for the Soboros Flexability. I am not sure. I am currently lvl 30 Samurai. I've just been outfitting it with gear before I get to needing them. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-19-2006, 08:09 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,054 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 478x in 316 Posts Gil: 1,259 Bank: 148,450 Total Gil: 149,709 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Note that you'll need to be well into your Chains of Promathia missions (chapter 4 if I recall) to access Riverne Site #B01. If you have not completed the missions up through that point, you cannot enter the zone, and cannot get the Soboro Sukehiro.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-20-2006, 03:33 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 305 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 305 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro It's a real useful weapon up til Hagun as was stated and great for /rng mainly. For farming purposes (if you do farm mobs as most people prefer doing bc fights instead), it's great for that fact that once you get kasha you can solo light renkei mobs (if they live long enough) and do fairly fast damage over all.
Also, it's great for level capped events, especially if you decide to help friends in parts of CoP that are 50 and 60 capped or if you have some capped missions left to do. It's one of those gktn that every sam should have for the sake of having because you never know when it could be of great benefit. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2006, 01:55 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,269 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,269 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro | Originally Posted by ImpactionActionHero | | You must trade Cluster Tar to a ??? in Riverne Site #B01, which is capped at level fifty, so your level seventy-five friends wont be of so much help. It takes about six to twelve peole to take it down, the more the merrier obvoiusly, but I've heard of six people doing it. It's got about a 50% drop rate, which is nice, and can last all the up through the sixties until the Hagun. It works best for /Rng and /War subs, but not so well for /Thf. | Drop rate is 100% if you can prevent the bombs from exploding at all. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2006, 01:57 AM | #8 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 137x in 107 Posts Gil: 32,835 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 32,835 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Didn't know about drop rate decreasing as it self-destruct. Interesting.
We tried to stun it just to stay alive lol. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2006, 05:38 AM | #9 (permalink) | | RNG for life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 319 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 38 Thanked 19x in 13 Posts Gil: 15,680 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,680 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Does anyone have any images I want to take a look at this weapon. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-11-2008, 03:51 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Mezlo Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 61 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 8,992 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,992 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Originally Posted by Credos | | Drop rate is 100% if you can prevent the bombs from exploding at all. | This is an older post, but can someone confirm this? Is the drop rate 100% if you can keep it from exploding?  75 nin 75 sam 75 pld 40+ everything else | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-11-2008, 04:24 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 612x in 395 Posts Gil: 16,209 Bank: 134,217 Total Gil: 150,426 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Sample size is fairly small (statically speaking), but my LS has never failed to obtain a Soboro Sukehiro when we stunned the NM correctly (around 10 times?), and usually do not get that two-handed katana when we failed to stun the self-destruct (about 5 or 6 times?).
BLU is not reliably enough as a stunner. Bring DRKs and BLMs, and set up a stun order. BLU makes a great backup stunner, though, since recast timer on Headbutt is short enough that it can practically attempt to stun every self-destruct.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-11-2008, 04:29 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Mezlo Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 61 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 8,992 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,992 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Cool, can a 6 person party take this no problem as long as we have a drk, blm, and blu?  75 nin 75 sam 75 pld 40+ everything else | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-11-2008, 04:35 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 612x in 395 Posts Gil: 16,209 Bank: 134,217 Total Gil: 150,426 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Originally Posted by rshermaniv | | Cool, can a 6 person party take this no problem as long as we have a drk, blm, and blu? | Probably not.
The NM hits fast, and can dish a great deal of AoE damage, and the stunners need cut back on other activities to focus on stun.
We always set up two tanks for this, and have multiple healers and DDs spread out to two, two and half parties.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to IfritnoItazura for above post: | | | 04-11-2008, 09:55 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,054 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 478x in 316 Posts Gil: 1,259 Bank: 148,450 Total Gil: 149,709 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Originally Posted by rshermaniv | | This is an older post, but can someone confirm this? Is the drop rate 100% if you can keep it from exploding? | Unless it was changed in the last year or so, it is not 100% under any circumstances, even if you Stun the Self-Destructs. The drop rate IS higher though. I have personally witnessed a no-Destruct kill that didn't drop a Soboro, however.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-11-2008, 09:59 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,054 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 478x in 316 Posts Gil: 1,259 Bank: 148,450 Total Gil: 149,709 Donate | Re: Soboro Sukihiro Just some additional advice; anyone who wants to be in melee range of the Unstable Cluster must be /NIN. I don't care how useful they say they are. Utsusemi will absorb his Circle of Flames attack.
Anyone who's in range who isn't /NIN ends up being an MP sponge, in a level capped zone where a lot of MP recovery isn't available aside from Refresh or Evoker's Roll.
Keep that in mind when building your party.
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