04-30-2004, 12:06 AM | #16 (permalink) | | Super Moderator Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aurora, CO. Posts: 1,955 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 9,898 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,898 Donate | Cough/hume/cough >.> | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 01:39 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 267 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 143 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 143 Donate | Speculation Maybe you need to create one renkei of each typ, i.e: level1, level2 and level3 renkei?
Just a thought.
I'm 10 levels away from being able to fight the geezer tho.
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http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=460499 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 01:50 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Super Moderator Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aurora, CO. Posts: 1,955 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 9,898 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,898 Donate | It's an idea but it's impossible to do at level 70 =\ you would need the quest WS in order to make a level 3 renkei.
And i'm just razzing yeh on the hume bit, best of luck on the next go with Maat, i'm sure you'll beat em. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 04:20 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hallowell, ME Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 6,369 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,369 Donate | Bit of information. I didn't use my attack earrings, haubergeon or ochi's in order to keep my evasion up...for lasting power. It didn't matter as Maat never missed. Next time I'm going in full-offense. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 09:08 AM | #20 (permalink) | | I've returned Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 1,626 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 5,757 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,757 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Kyoujin The 3 renkei thing did not work for me. I went Jinpu all the way, got 3 renkei, and still he gutted me. | You use 4 jinpus? Hmm... Maybe you need 5? If that fails, back to the drawing board. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 11:53 AM | #21 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hallowell, ME Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 6,369 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,369 Donate | I used five. He tackled me after the third, interrupting my chain. I quickly popped an icarus wing and dropped two more on him when the stun wore off. Then I went down to a 300-point Combo. Maybe you have to do three different renkei. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 07:13 PM | #22 (permalink) | | Super Moderator Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aurora, CO. Posts: 1,955 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 9,898 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,898 Donate | I'm still gona try to do a renkei with the order of WS's 1>8>7>6 and pray Maat realizes i don't hate on the elderly population on vana'diel and submit to me =\ may give it a shot just for kicks and grins here soon but i don't really see me getting serious about it until 70. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 07:44 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 267 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 143 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 143 Donate | I'm not sure. I may be wrong, I would NOT want to contest the great Nodachi (I'm not jesting here, I do have utmost respect for you), but with meikyo, wouldn't:
Koki > Jinpu > Yuki > Gekko produce a level 3 renkei solo?
I believe the order would be:
Koki > (Detonation) > Jinpu > (Gravitation) > Yuki > (Distortion) > Gekko?
Maybe I'm just tired and reading the chart way off.
(Jinpu > Jinpu > Yuki > Gekko should work too. It's just my habit of using different WS with meikyo... I view it as a pretty fireworks show, with the added bonus of taking a nice chunk of hp out of the mob.)
Thankful for input on the issue.
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http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=460499 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-30-2004, 10:07 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 478 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 617 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 617 Donate | I'm not a samurai, but...the chain you posted won't work. Koki->Jinpu would make detonation, but Yuki would not even chain with that. It's elements are induration and detonation, neither of which will chain on a detonation.
Nodachi is right here, the reason you can't make a level 3 skillchain solo before the quest weaponskill is because you need gravitation to precede Gekko (distortion element). Since great katana has no compression weapon skill (before the quest one) you can't make a level 3. With the 250 skill it would be easy to do, just need to precede it with fragmentation (I believe yuki->gekko would work). | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-01-2004, 01:51 AM | #25 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 267 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 143 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 143 Donate | Ah, good to know. Ok, then it's just my chart that is messed up. According to the chart, Jinpu OR Yuki links with another Yuki for gravitation, dark/earth... And from there, it links to lvl3 dist/dark.
Might have to start looking for another chart then... ;_;
Anyways, thanks for clearing it up.
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http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=460499 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-01-2004, 08:52 AM | #26 (permalink) | | I've returned Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 1,626 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 5,757 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,757 Donate | Re: Ah, good to know. | Quote: | Originally posted by DrSerpico Ok, then it's just my chart that is messed up. According to the chart, Jinpu OR Yuki links with another Yuki for gravitation, dark/earth... And from there, it links to lvl3 dist/dark.
Might have to start looking for another chart then... ;_;
Anyways, thanks for clearing it up.
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Best thing to do would be to test renkeis using our 2hr on strong too weak mobs beforehand. It's how i confirmed infinit Jinpus renkei'd. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-04-2004, 12:34 AM | #27 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hallowell, ME Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 6,369 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,369 Donate | Yeah, sticking three renkei for the win was bogus. You gotta beat him down like just about everyone else. Misc. info:
*He never missed me in my three runs, not once.
*Seems to have a preference to Combo>Spinning Attack>Shoulder Tackle when he uses Meikyo Shisui.
*Uses Meikyo Shisui very early.
*Hits rather hard.
My strategy after debunking the three renkei theory was as follows... Gear Configuration:
Switched out my Ochi's, Lightning Bow and Sniper's for Myochin Kote, Happy Egg and Phalanx Rings. Picked up an Icarus Wing, Shogun Riceball and seven Hi-Potions. Full attack gear otherwise. Don't worry about the negative evasion on your haubergeon or earrings because it really doesn't make a difference. Prep:
*Made macros for the Icarus Wing and Hi-pots.
*Ate the riceball before entering to make use of the HP bonus.
*Zoned into the SC, immediately hit the meditate macro then waited for it to pop again.
*Used Third Eye and waited for the recast timer to hit 15 before charging. Fight:
The plan was to tough out his 2hr, heal up, then go apeshit with Meikyo Shisui.
By allowing the Third Eye recast timer to count down to 15 before engaging I was able to blink his first attack and then have Third Eye immediately available again. The second Third Eye was used to disrupt his 2hr chain. At the end of his 2hr I was at roughly 150hp (he got 2 crits in between his weapon skills). After his bit was over I spammed my hi-pot macro until I had guzzled all 7 potions then launched my Meikyo Shisui devastation.
-Jinpu
-Meikyo Shisui
-Gekko [Reverberation] (double attack went off for an impressive 800dmg here)
-Meditate
-Yukikaze [Induration]
-Gekko [Fragmentation]
**Maat drops below 0 HP and gives up here.
-Gekko [Distortion]
I had something like 258hp left after punking him. He quit before the last weapon skill in my planned renkei so I had no use for the Icarus Wing I bought...good insurance to have one though. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-04-2004, 12:51 AM | #28 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 905 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 563 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 563 Donate | a couple small things
double attack couldn't have gone off because you have no subjob during this fight
and I was under the impression that all buffs (including food) were removed once you entered the bc  MiyamotoMusashi
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double attack couldn't have gone off because you have no subjob during this fight
and I was under the impression that all buffs (including food) were removed once you entered the bc | Shogun Riceball gives a +8 bonus to double attack. Items/effects with such bonuses allow you to double attack without a warrior sub. All buffs except food are removed when entering. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:41 AM. | | |