where can i get a GOOD renkei chart

[swordchucks]

the one in the brady games guide is just bad,the one on killing ifrit is awesome but half the names are direct japanese translations so i dont know what their actually called in the american name. So where can i get a really good one?

[Wolfoot]

The best I found.

http://somepage.com/images/ffxi-sc-mb.jpg

[Cylith AeonHart]

My favorite renkei chart.


http://www.adennak.com/renkei04.jpg

[ZQM]

Originally posted by Cylith AeonHart
My favorite renkei chart.


http://www.adennak.com/renkei04.jpg

Yeah, one that has Markmanship. We couldn't come up with a skillchain with a RNG in our part a few days ago because nobody had a chart with Markmanship.

[Kensai]

don't marksmanship and archery have the same renkeis?

[ZQM]

Yeah, you're right. Different WS but the same level are on the same charts. Wish I would have known that a few days ago. :dead:

[Inwa]

Anyone know if there's an update to this chart?

Chart

It's the one i like the most, but i'd like to know if there's a version of it with the higer level WS's and Marksminship and whatnot.

[Ashtyr]

My personal favorite

[stabby]

This one takes a while to learn how to read, but once you get it figured out, it's hands down better than anything else out there.

[Inwa]

Alright....Aden's is starting to grow on me, though i'm still confused a bit. So in the upper-right, the cris-cross arrows mean that following the arrow direction you can make Gravitation or Distortion?

Also, is there another chart to go allong with this that shows types of creatures elemental weaknesses so that i know what renkei to use against which mobs?

EDIT: Also do you have to go from A to B to make the renkei? So could you go =

Spinning Axe > Vorpal thrust = Distortion?

Or do you have to go:

Avalance Axe > Shadow of Death = Distortion?

So basically, is A+A ok? A+B? B+A? B+B?

Some don't even have letters after them...what's up with that?

[CarbonFibre]

This is the one that I use. There's probably a billion things wrong with it, though. I don't even know what the thing on the bottom left means. I'm still a little hazy on the level 1, 2, 3 chain stuff as well. Only problem that I had with this one is when a weaponskill was in more than one box. I didn't notice until after, but it would do a chain other than what was expected (such as Tachi: Enpi > Nightmare Scythe).

[fastcart]

Originally posted by Cylith AeonHart
My favorite renkei chart.


http://www.adennak.com/renkei04.jpg

Ew. That's an old one. Its ok tho. The link didn't work for me anyway. ^^

You really want to go to http://www.adennak.com/renkei.html instead. The current chart is V2.1 (renkei07.jpg). Ppl have reportedly gone to their local Kinko's and had them print out nice copies because this is the most complete and accurate english chart out there (as well as saving printer ink). Some ppl even lamenate them. ^^

Originally posted by Inwa
EDIT: Also do you have to go from A to B to make the renkei? So could you go =

Spinning Axe > Vorpal thrust = Distortion?

Or do you have to go:

Avalance Axe > Shadow of Death = Distortion?

So basically, is A+A ok? A+B? B+A? B+B?

Some don't even have letters after them...what's up with that?

Inwa, I'll try to explain. If you look at Adennak's chart, you'll See Yukikaze (A or B) > Kasha B. This means it could either make Gravitation or Compression. Whenever a ws has a letter the first letter of the alphabet has priority. So, much to the chagrin of Sam everywhere, Yukikaze > Kasha will make Compression.

For yours, you want Spinning Axe (A or B) > Vorpal Thrust (A or B) and Avalance Axe (A or B) > Shadow of Death (A or B). For Spinning Axe > Vorpal Thrust follow the lowest letters, A > A, and you see that's not possible. Next lowest, A > B, is also not possible. So, you'll look at B > A and viola, it makes Reverberation. So, there's no need to look at B > B. For Avalance Axe (A or B) > Shadow of Death (A or B), follow the same pattern and you'll see B > A makes Reverberation.

Another example. Gekko (A or B) > Impulse Drive (A or B) could make Induration, Fragmentation, or Darkness. So, you match up the lowest letters, in this case A > A and you'll see Darkness has priority. This also has the side effect of meaning that we Sam could pull off both Darkness and Light renkei using our 2hr. ^^

If you want to see how this is possible, follow this. Again, this info is from Adennak's chart. You start off having 100 tp with a spear and do Impulse drive. You then switch to Gkt, activate 2hr, then do Gekko (Darkness). Then, you activate Meditate and do Yukikaze. Then, comes Gekko (Fragmentation). Then, thanks to the renkei gods, you finish with Kasha (Light) because lvl 225+ weapon skills can connect with certain corresponding renkei. So the short hand is:

Impulse Drive > switch to Gkt > 2hr > Gekko (Darkness) > Meditate > Yukikaze > Gekko (Fragmentation) > Kasha (Light)

And before anyone says "But, you can't gain tp when you use your 2hr," lemme say that using meditate is the only exception to that rule. I personally do Sidewinder > Sidewinder > Yukikaze > Gekko > Kasha for Light renkei.

Finally, to answer "Some don't even have letters after them...what's up with that?" No letters just means you don't have to check priority. What you see is what you get. I hope this longwinded posts answers questions.

P.S. Adennak's chart has one mistake: Guillotine > Koki makes Fragmentation, not Impaction. The A and B for Koki are switched and should be fixed in the next version.

P.S.S. Yes, I'm the same Fast Cart that he thanks on his site. I'm sure he/she is sick of me by now. ^^

[pearlsea]

Does anyone know any good updated charts?


Ok i know im digging up an old thread but its better than a new one of the same topic.

[Taskmage]

Aden's renkei chart is still the best out there, imo.

This one at www.vanaguide.com is much cleaner and easier to read, but is missing some information. For example, Blood Pacts aren't on there, and it's much harder to tell how the 220+ WSes interact with eachother than with Aden's.

[Obakeken]

I'd suggest Aden's and this one.

The second one is outdated, but better for understanding how skillchains actually work. Even though you can figure out the same from Aden's (I slapped myself for not noticing it on Aden's after I looked at this one), the second is simply better for learning what part elemental attributes (the A and B attributes) play in skillchains and for memorizing what weapon skills have which attributes (start with the ones most commonly used in skillchains), which will make you a veritable walking skillchain chart.