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Old 01-24-2004, 07:28 PM   #1
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Question SAM's Role At Higher Levels?

Though I've been Lvl 30 with my WAR for quite some time, I've yet to solidly pick a main job and stick with it. There's always something about each class that I do not like. My choices are: DRK/SAM (mass damage), WAR/SAM (versatility, eventually able to use many of the high damage WS), NIN/WAR (arguably best tank), SAM/WAR (able to use awesome Great Katana WS as well as polearms, lots of style). My cons for DRK are the fact that it takes forever for them to do their mass damage WS. My con for WAR/SAM is that I'll never tank as well as a PLD or NIN and I'll never deal damage as well as a DRG, SAM, or DRK. My con for NIN is that they don't do much damage...at all. I'm left with SAM. I don't exactly know what a SAM's role in higher level parties is, so I've come to you for help. Any help in helping me choose my job is greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-24-2004, 08:34 PM   #2
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After about level 30 or so, your role will be the same as DRK, DRG, and MNK.....which is melee damage dealer. You stand to the side, berserk, and coordinate renkeis. You will rarely provoke, you pretty much don't do anything, just let your guy fight on auto, then do a WS, rinse and repeat.

While SAM's damage output might not be as good as DRKs, DRGs, RNGs, and MNKs, you still have that badass Meditate skill that they don't have......until 60 when they can, and most likely will, get it also. After about 60, I guess your role changes from "Badass melee damage dealer" to "The guy we'll invite if there are no DRKs, DRGs, MNKs or RNGs on"
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:46 PM   #3
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While SAM's damage output might not be as good as DRKs, DRGs, RNGs, and MNKs, you still have that badass Meditate skill that they don't have......until 60 when they can, and most likely will, get it also. After about 60, I guess your role changes from "Badass melee damage dealer" to "The guy we'll invite if there are no DRKs, DRGs, MNKs or RNGs on"


hmm... I keep hearing opposing opinions on this. I want to be a samurai but posts like this always give me doubts. But then some other user goes on and says they are wrong.. bleh.
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Old 01-25-2004, 03:29 AM   #4
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i dunno, i play a 50mnk/25warrior.. so...

but my opinion is pretty low on samurais personally. They have a pretty weak auto attack, and pretty weak WS's, their only saving grace is Meditate.

And the future looks very grim as well, most have to switch to polearms, and the ones they can use are pretty bad compared to the DRG only ones, and GK's are NEARLY as good as the scythes of the same level.

So i dunno, they do get very cool looking af though.
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i dunno, i play a 50mnk/25warrior.. so...

but my opinion is pretty low on samurais personally. They have a pretty weak auto attack, and pretty weak WS's, their only saving grace is Meditate.

And the future looks very grim as well, most have to switch to polearms, and the ones they can use are pretty bad compared to the DRG only ones, and GK's are NEARLY as good as the scythes of the same level.

So i dunno, they do get very cool looking af though.
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*So i dunno, they do get very cool looking af though.*

Yes, SAMs do get badass AF and badass katanas.......unless you're a hume and the great katana stance looks really stupid and the AF looks goofy as hell. But on the other races, AF looks awesome.

And of course, the Monk AF looks like some Las Vegas gaybar circus performer outfit or something.
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unless you're a hume and the great katana stance looks really stupid and the AF looks goofy as hell
Actually the sam af only looks normal on a hume, and maybe a mithra. All others its oddly shapped and deformed (elvaans look like they have fucking beer bellies).
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Hmm, well I've always thought the AF on humes look goofy,......especially with the helmet, because it looks too big.

But you gotta admit that the Hume Male Great Katana stance is extremely stupid looking LOL,......especially from the side.
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Old 01-25-2004, 05:54 PM   #9
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Loc, all I ever hear are negative connotations toward the Samurai from you... why don't you switch jobs?
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Ehhh, I know it's dumb but going back to katana stances the hume one looks the most professional while the elvaan one is just common. IMO atleast...
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three words. One...Man...Skillchains... ^^ Grab a DRG/SAM, start pentathrusting and don't stop til you pass out ^^
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Since when does penta thrust chain with itself? :spin:
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Gah, you know what I mean. Relentless pentathrusting assaults!!! ^^ I could have sworn though, that Epni chains with itself, everytime I smack the 2hr and start whackin away, some weird effect thinger comes up, and I'm like "Hey what the hell is that" heh.
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Enpi does chain with itself, it's a Distortion renkei. Which you can have the black mages MB with Blizzard and Water.
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Hmm, well I've always thought the AF on humes look goofy,......especially with the helmet, because it looks too big.

But you gotta admit that the Hume Male Great Katana stance is extremely stupid looking LOL,......especially from the side.
All of the GK stances look OK to me. Anyway, you're in the minority ....

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