04-04-2008, 07:11 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Guam Posts: 171 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,169 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,169 Donate | If you were starting fresh today? Hi I played FFXI on US release got to 55 (spent a lot of time crafting)I think then switched to WoW. Now I've OD'ed on WoW got the T-shirt, underwear, and sock set from the highest content there is...
So I still see FFXI with "Rose Tinted Glasses" and thought maybe I could log in some hours there during the week in between raid days... (since there isn't much for me gear wise and the guild is giving more people opportunities to gear up)
So if you just opened a new account today... what would you do?
I figure FFXI is still very cash driven... so I'll need to make gil.
I'm also going to assume that finding groups will be difficult for a fresh player since I figure most people have leveled all the sub's they'll ever need.
So is it going to be painful to get those newbie hurdles out of the way like sub-job quest and Airship pass.
What classes... errr... jobs  would you try to level first? I would figure WHM and BRD are still a cheap way to get that first lvl 75 under your belt? Since I figure other jobs might be too gear intensive (cash driven) to level to 75 as your "first" 75.
As i would figure at this point in the game... it's not like WoW where you can lvl a fresh toon get some starting equipment through Quests and non-Heroic Instances. Then grind some Heroic Badges and entry level Raids for equipment. 6 months later (possibly sooner if your a healer) you could be doing Top-End content.
I had also hear that the leveling grind has been reduced??? It was murder from what I remember before.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Sadus NIN Current Main BST Side Project | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 07:32 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 3,399 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,399 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Best advise I can give is, being this is a game and all, to play the class you enjoy playing the most. Also, find a linkshell of people who you enjoy talking to (and can help you with missions/quests ^^). | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 07:33 AM | #3 (permalink) | | The dodo's conundrum Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,532 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 110 Thanked 296x in 199 Posts Gil: 164 Bank: 31,826 Total Gil: 31,990 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? I came back in October. Nothing's been significantly more difficult than it ever was.
For gil, I farm and craft. I'll eventually fish and mine, too, just haven't gotten around to it. Same as it ever was, watch the market, make decisions.
What job to level first really depends on what you want. If you've got a particular job in mind, level jobs that make sense as subjobs for it (or the job itself if it's one of the starting six). How easy you have it there will depend on your play time and your server (less populated means fewer people partying, but they're not as picky; more populated means more parties going, but also more selective). If your main concern is racing to 75 for some reason, then yeah, WHM, RDM, or BRD are pretty reliable for that.
If you can't find groups, soloing's gotten easier (though it's not the best idea 1-75 for most jobs; it's just more viable to solo Easy Prey while you're seeking). For quests and missions you need help with, get a decent linkshell, just like always.
The level grind has been reduced slightly. Not enough to make it zip by. If you found it tedious and difficult last time, you'll find it tedious and difficult this time, just a little less so. Ellipses on Fenrir There is no rush. If you're not willing to take your time, don't be surprised when no one wants to give you much of theirs.
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. . . | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 07:35 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,416 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 102 Thanked 1,276x in 773 Posts Gil: 2,403 Bank: 79,083 Total Gil: 81,486 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? | Quote: | | so I'll need to make gil | So sell drops like every other new character | Quote: | | is it going to be painful to get those newbie hurdles out of the way like sub-job quest and Airship pass. | Did you find it painful the first time? | Quote: | | What classes... errr... jobs would you try to level first? | Ones that I find fun to play. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Mhurron for above post: | | | 04-04-2008, 08:11 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Shikaree N Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 689 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 34 Thanked 41x in 26 Posts Gil: 5,765 Bank: 17,337 Total Gil: 23,102 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? I started a taru from scratch a few months ago just because I wanted something cute to look at. Made it to lvl 55 WHM so far with fully leveled BLM sub. Soloing Rank 3 mission and airship pass quest wasn't so bad. It was the subjob quest that killed me >_> I was determined to do it on my own and the drop rates just weren't working for me. Eventually an LS member forced me to let them help me. :p
Now I'm realizing I have to get all my runic portals again after scouring Vanadiel to get ToAU access. And I still need to pick up Sky and Sea again. If you want to get a new character up to snuff when you're used to have access to all areas and a couple of jobs at 75 it's a bit daunting. ;_; | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 09:57 AM | #6 (permalink) | | I.T. Analyst Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 110 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 75 Bank: 6,604 Total Gil: 6,679 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? whm and brd are always sought after for parties, go with blm to 18, whm to 37, then brd to 75....if you want to do it as fast as possible...just my two cents
plus a lot of their gear is shared...will save you some coin  [Bahamut] Rank 5
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Maat Fight | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 10:05 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,860 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 235 Thanked 604x in 393 Posts Gil: 8,898 Bank: 79,407 Total Gil: 88,305 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Solo all six starter jobs to Lv.10. Sell the drops to fund equipment. Keep in mind some stuff sells for higher prices on Auction House, while some to NPCs.
Take WHM into the parting levels first; relatively good invite rate, and having a support job which can give you Sneak and Invisible is always a nice option to have, even if you don't want to level WHM as a main.
After you unlock support job ability, then you can decide which jobs to level further.
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Long term gil outlook wise, FFXI provides more and more varied opportunities roughly corresponding to job level and which jobs one has available. For a beginner, here are two good resources to look at:  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to IfritnoItazura For This Useful Post: | | | 04-04-2008, 12:46 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,191 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 624 Thanked 291x in 196 Posts Gil: 63,595 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 63,595 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Originally Posted by Burzum | | I would figure WHM and BRD are still a cheap way to get that first lvl 75 under your belt? | When is this mentality going to die off once and for all? I hate it when people level X job because "it's cheap", particularly BRD because it's a support job and ppl who level it with just one instrument thinking it's cheap easy ticket to 75 drive me up the wall. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Malacite For This Useful Post: | | | 04-04-2008, 01:53 PM | #9 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,141 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 89x in 71 Posts Gil: 14,884 Bank: 20,568 Total Gil: 35,452 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Play what job you want to....not what's the fastest way to hit 75. If it means farming as you go along, then do it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 02:18 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 11,654 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 32,760 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Originally Posted by Burzum |
So if you just opened a new account today... what would you do? | Quit and never come back this shit is addicting lol. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Sevv For This Useful Post: | | | 04-04-2008, 02:50 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Guam Posts: 171 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,169 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,169 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Originally Posted by Mhurron | | So sell drops like every other new character |
Fair enough... I mean I quit during the time of the great economic super inflation... so I'm unsure of the current state of the economy. | Quote: | | Did you find it painful the first time? | Not really I had some RL friend who all got into it with my at the same time... since we were all moving from EQ... but alas this time I'll be a lone adventurer. | Quote: | | Ones that I find fun to play. | Well often a class might seem "fun" to many people ... but be torture to play due to player base bias "dragoon" I think had a tough time with this when I first played.
As well some jobs are very gear dependent and cash flow dependent in relation to other jobs... I remember Ninja and Ranger both being exceptionally expensive to level in relation to other jobs.
I am a player who doesn't like to play characters that are slackers  So I have sense enough to know that I should likely start my first level grind to 75 (which will create a lot more opportunity for cash flow) with a job that is relatively in expensive to be able to play at the level I find acceptable. My moto is that I can always level a second job to 75 down the road when economics will not be as limiting of a factor.
For I'm sure any job could leveled as a particular characters first lvl 75 job... the question is do I want to spend a year doing so or a few months? Personally a few months is more why I'm leaning toward.  Sadus NIN Current Main BST Side Project | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 03:35 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 100 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3x in 2 Posts Gil: 6,587 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,587 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? I started fresh again in December. I've taken my time making gil so it may be unimpressive that I'm only a 33 whm/blm and nin/thf/war at 10. I think the hardest part about starting fresh on a new server was finding a quality social ls.  . | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-04-2008, 07:19 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 205 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 14 Thanked 11x in 11 Posts Gil: 307 Bank: 7,731 Total Gil: 8,037 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? Originally Posted by Burzum | So if you just opened a new account today... what would you do?
What classes... errr... jobs would you try to level first? | I didn't open a new account today, but I did start fresh not too long ago. Like you, I wasn't entirely sure what job I wanted to play this time around so I made the decision to take some utility jobs and the corresponding subjob to level 20 (Thief, Warrior, Monk, White Mage, Black Mage).
This allowed me to re-acquaint myself with the game as well as find where my tastes in jobs fell this go 'round. | Quote: | | I had also hear[d] that the leveling grind has been reduced??? It was murder from what I remember before. | There's been some nice tweaks that speed xp'ing up a little. The Chariot, Empress, and Emperor rings provide a nice XP bonus. A long while back Easy Prey monsters got a boost in the amount of XP they give making solo'ing a bit more viable.
You'll still need to get a group eventually -- although it's easier to solo to 20'ish now.
At some point, you'll still end up xp'ing off Crabs in Valkurm and Qufim Island.
Sometimes you'll have problems getting a party together because there's no healer or tank.
Same as it ever was. signature by fallenintoshadows Linkshell: lolCats | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-07-2008, 11:14 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Guam Posts: 171 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,169 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,169 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? PS are there are recent new servers?
I would like to go to a newer server if there happen to be any... just in the fact that I would hope there might be a larger population of people still leveling jobs 1-37.
The prospect of LFG in the dunes for two weeks to get my sub-job quest done is not exactly enticing  .
Thanks for all the replies as well  Sadus NIN Current Main BST Side Project | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-07-2008, 11:19 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,416 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 102 Thanked 1,276x in 773 Posts Gil: 2,403 Bank: 79,083 Total Gil: 81,486 Donate | Re: If you were starting fresh today? No. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:15 PM. | | |