 | View Poll Results: Do you think SE will make through with the Melee update |  | | Yes i think SE will make melee more desired |   | 10 | 33.33% | | No i dont think SE will make melee desirable in eyes of community |   | 14 | 46.67% | | I think they will either hurt the job or make it to strong |   | 6 | 20.00% | | 03-07-2008, 05:33 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Sexy Taru RDM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 451 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 32x in 27 Posts Gil: 18,948 Bank: 167 Total Gil: 19,115 Donate | Update March 08 Your opinion Ok seeing as we are still in the dark about how the are going to make there hinted change to melee on RDM im curious to think what the rest of you believe.
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3. This is not a discssion this is a poll please keep discussions to the many other topics  Melee RDM since /04
75 RDM, /DNC, /NIN, /BLU, /BLM, /WHM, /WAR, /PLD
PSN ID: Kurtmooreca | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 06:58 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,475 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 127 Thanked 157x in 103 Posts Gil: 15,086 Bank: 9,946 Total Gil: 25,032 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Personally, I believe that since they haven't mentioned RDM at all, that they may not do anything to it at this time. I also don't feel that RDM should get any buffing until the jobs everyone considers sub-par get theirs. DRG is in need of some late game assistance. SMN is missing some teeth (it's been a mediocre main heal for how long now?). SCH needs a power up, and so does PUP. 3/4 of these jobs are getting buffs in the next update as noted in previous information.
You left out the option for RDM will not be altered significantly, but that sort of falls under the "No" category. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 07:55 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Sexy Taru RDM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 451 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 32x in 27 Posts Gil: 18,948 Bank: 167 Total Gil: 19,115 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Heh forgot to put my why.
Option2.
I dont think any update will be enough to make RDM melee change in the eyes of the community. Unless they seriously overpower RDM,or under power its spell casting. I think RDM's "Cure-Bot" style of play is going to be hard-imposible to cange.  Melee RDM since /04
75 RDM, /DNC, /NIN, /BLU, /BLM, /WHM, /WAR, /PLD
PSN ID: Kurtmooreca | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 10:25 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,886 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 426x in 278 Posts Gil: 808 Bank: 25,740 Total Gil: 26,548 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Option 4: I'll just wait and see what they actually do and reserve judgment until then.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Icemage for above post: | | | 03-07-2008, 10:26 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Murphendary Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 892 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 391 Thanked 1,389x in 887 Posts Gil: 8,519 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,519 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion I was going to make "I don't care about RDM melee one way or the other" as option 4, Icemage. Can we make yours 5? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Murphie For This Useful Post: | | | 03-07-2008, 10:31 AM | #6 (permalink) | | ~ Mama Gamer ~ Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,977 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 380 Thanked 305x in 211 Posts Gil: 2,193 Bank: 34,012 Total Gil: 36,205 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion RDM melee is just fine. I was soloing on RDM/DRK yesterday and pulling out 500-800 Vorpals without even touching my /DRK /ja. And my melee gear is not that great. You could even say that I don't have a melee setup. I bet if I geared myself really well I'd be parsing just as well as some heavy hitters. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Aksannyi for above post: | | | 03-07-2008, 11:57 AM | #7 (permalink) | | 75RED Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,103 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 122 Thanked 269x in 158 Posts Gil: 3,648 Bank: 20,755 Total Gil: 24,403 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion I just got off the phone with a SGM and they'll be adding a sword with 1/tick refresh, +10 MAcc/MAB, and +20 Acc/Atk, drops off a level 90 mob that is Bind/Grav resistant but must be DoT solo'd.
Screenshots of the phone call coming soon, slow Photobucket.
Ok, ok, for serious: I personally don't think that a RDM melee will be in this update, I think it'll come further down the road, maybe in 1-2.
In terms of impact on the community, short of them giving an sword like stated above, it'll be next to nothing. RDM soloing would pick up a bit, which would be really nice in some situations, but in reality RDM melee isn't so looked down upon because it's so bad, it is because backline RDM is borderline broken and is capable of single-handedly impacting a party in ways that a single DD cannot.
Nothing is going to come that will revolutionize RDM gameplay, because if it did, it would destroy balance, cross the streams, and mass asplosions and penis would ensue(and this is coming from possibly the largest proponent of melee RDM on these forums, so don't think these are biased comments). Last edited by Callisto : 03-07-2008 at 12:02 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 12:10 PM | #8 (permalink) | | NINOMIYA-KUN!! Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,710 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1,396 Thanked 1,135x in 801 Posts Gil: 489 Bank: 105,903 Total Gil: 106,392 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Can someone tell me when we started being able to vote on facts? I saw this on CNN earlier too.
If we can vote for facts, can I vote that the sky is white? A white sky would be cool. | Originally Posted by 3AM | Murphie: This conversation is going to a scary place.
feba: So you're saying you do not support infanticide. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Feba for above post: | | | 03-07-2008, 12:53 PM | #9 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Windurst Posts: 3,795 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 133 Thanked 959x in 525 Posts Gil: 9,333 Bank: 33,746 Total Gil: 43,078 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion "Wait, Egon, you said crossing the streams was bad." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 01:12 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Haruhi Wannabe Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 299 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 72 Thanked 147x in 51 Posts Gil: 8,984 Bank: 23,372 Total Gil: 32,356 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion I think, no matter what SE does to RDM, the community will still find reasons to shove them in the back. Haste/cure/refresh bot.
Although just in my opinion on RDM, although i know its not the place to discuss it, but meh, RDM is the Balanced mage, they should be ready for any situation with the right subjobs, if they are needed in the back, fine, if they are needed in the front, fine, if they need to kite/tank fine. Its a very flexible job, but alot of RDMs these days don't know this and only have like ONE subjob and 90% of the time its /blm. So don't be surprised when you get the "-_-" look from your leaders when you say you don't have /drk for something like Dynamis Lord. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 01:17 PM | #11 (permalink) | | 75RED Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,103 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 122 Thanked 269x in 158 Posts Gil: 3,648 Bank: 20,755 Total Gil: 24,403 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Originally Posted by Selphiie The Enchantress | | So don't be surprised when you get the "-_-" look from your leaders when you say you don't have /drk for something like Dynamis Lord. | You should see the text faces I get when I tell LSmates I'm coming /RNG or some shit like that to meripo lol... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 01:18 PM | #12 (permalink) | | NINOMIYA-KUN!! Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,710 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1,396 Thanked 1,135x in 801 Posts Gil: 489 Bank: 105,903 Total Gil: 106,392 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion I saw a taru RDM/RNG kicking ass once.
For some reason, he was down in Toraimorai screwdrivering Pugils.
Actually, come to think of it, he wasn't kicking ass so much as completely bizarre. | Originally Posted by 3AM | Murphie: This conversation is going to a scary place.
feba: So you're saying you do not support infanticide. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 01:28 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,365 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 109 Thanked 190x in 132 Posts Gil: 271 Bank: 16,800 Total Gil: 17,070 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion I can't wait for all the cool stuff we'll get on this update!
New H2h weapons, a bow and probably a piece or two of lvl 51 equipment with INT/MND +1 and healing HP. SE really spoils RDMs.  Sanctuary of Zi'tah! "In this world, the one who has the most fun is the winner!" C.B. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 03:18 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,886 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 426x in 278 Posts Gil: 808 Bank: 25,740 Total Gil: 26,548 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Originally Posted by Raydeus | I can't wait for all the cool stuff we'll get on this update! 
New H2h weapons, a bow and probably a piece or two of lvl 51 equipment with INT/MND +1 and healing HP. SE really spoils RDMs. | Hah!
Really all I would want would be a mild upgrade to Enspell damage. Making RDM into something resembling even Blue Mage in combat capacity would be encroaching on the uniqueness of that job, so I don't see S-E ever really doing that now that Blue Mage is in the game (not that Blue Mages are all that and a bag of chips in combat, but they're certainly still noticeably better at it than Red Mages).
If anything, I would rather that Square-Enix give BLUE Mages something more. They need the help far more.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2008, 03:47 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,742 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 369 Thanked 290x in 180 Posts Gil: 559 Bank: 16,586 Total Gil: 17,144 Donate | Re: Update March 08 Your opinion Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten | | "Wait, Egon, you said crossing the streams was bad." | "Tell him about the Twinkie."
"What about the Twinkie?"
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