10-17-2007, 05:03 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,619 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 419 Thanked 236x in 137 Posts Gil: 1,092 Bank: 66,485 Total Gil: 67,576 Donate | King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Yay or Nay?
I mean this is just speculation, but hopefully during the weekend I'll find out sooner or later.
I'm camping right now, and I log in periodically to check the camp, and I keep good contact with the other campers in the area just to be a fair sport. (I really just want that god damned ToD...) Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 05:13 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 3,672 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,672 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Difficult to do before rage timer, but maybe.
Edit: after seeing it has 15k hp, very difficult to get the damage before rage timer. Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 06:30 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,619 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 419 Thanked 236x in 137 Posts Gil: 1,092 Bank: 66,485 Total Gil: 67,576 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Well I posted this at 9:00am, and it's 1030 now, and I see that the Knight Crabs were killed while I was AFK.
Protect wore, and I cast it maybe 5mins before I logged off, although I was online for about 10 mins before I went AFK, so it's feasible that he died after 930 AM, but before 1020.
In any case, I'll try to be online tomorrow starting at 6am, so that I can get a precise ToD. Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 06:52 AM | #4 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 22,367 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,367 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Doubt it.
Without timer, then easy NP.
But a decently geared PLD/NIN and THF/NIN took him on duo, and they had real problems killing before the rage timer, and in the end had help from a couple RDM's to finish it off before it Raged.
Considering the THF would of been SA'ing every chance he had, the damage output would far exceed that of what a RDM could do alone. 
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bautier.wordpress.com - My new and 1st blog! (No longer updated, some useful info there though :D) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 07:32 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,992 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 458x in 301 Posts Gil: 222 Bank: 82,157 Total Gil: 82,379 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Not possible to do it within the rage timer. RDM just doesn't deal damage fast enough. You need some outside help for sure.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 07:42 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,619 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 419 Thanked 236x in 137 Posts Gil: 1,092 Bank: 66,485 Total Gil: 67,576 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN He's a bit weaker than Aquarius, but a crapload more HP. I'm not sure about Bind/Gravity, being as it's entirely possible that he'd eventually start resisting, but what about nuking?
15000/500 = 30 Nukes.
That seems "feasible", and by that I mean, "more reasonable than melee soloing him".
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Blizzard is 120
Thunder is 128
It might be more possible for me to duo him down to 75% health, then start alternating with Thunder III and Blizzard III.
With Full MP and a Convert, that is possible. And that's assuming I don't do over 500 damage a nuke.
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ON A SIDE NOTE, THE MANSUR EPEE COMPLETELY OWNS MY JOYEUSE IN TERMS OF DAMAGE.
I think I finally have a reason to Dual-Wield now. Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | Last edited by WishMaster3K : 10-17-2007 at 07:52 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 07:52 AM | #7 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 22,367 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,367 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN And that you done need to Cure yourself, or enfeeble, and no resists.... 
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bautier.wordpress.com - My new and 1st blog! (No longer updated, some useful info there though :D) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:03 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,619 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 419 Thanked 236x in 137 Posts Gil: 1,092 Bank: 66,485 Total Gil: 67,576 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Yeah. So I'm pretty much going to need at least 2 other people if I want to nuke it, or 2 other people if I want to melee it.
Bleh.
I'm just gonna play around with this Sword some more. Just did a 781 Savage blade on a TW, breaking my previous record of 500. I'm so happy! Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:04 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,513 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,350x in 821 Posts Gil: 5,921 Bank: 151,649 Total Gil: 157,570 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN I'd try it once anyway.
BTW, apparently a NIN has soloed him so you may only need one other person. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:08 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 776 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 126x in 92 Posts Gil: 16 Bank: 2,590 Total Gil: 2,607 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Using 2hours you and a mnk can easily duo it. Or a Kraken/Ridill Drk if you happen to know one somewhere.
I usually 3 man KA in the wee hours of the morning, and almost any setup will work for that.
I can't really think of a job that could solo KA in time. Drk would be close, but would need haste/march to pull it off I think. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:15 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,992 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 458x in 301 Posts Gil: 222 Bank: 82,157 Total Gil: 82,379 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Originally Posted by Necropolis | | Drk would be close, but would need haste/march to pull it off I think. | Galka Dark Knight with some accuracy gears and a Kraken Club might be able to do it using Souleater + Blood Weapon as a finisher, but even that would be iffy. 15000 HP is a lot of damage to try to deal out in such a short time frame.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:17 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,391 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 90 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 8,913 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,913 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN I've also heard of acccounts of nin soloing KA. Granted, with lots of hi-pots at your disposal. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:30 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 776 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 126x in 92 Posts Gil: 16 Bank: 2,590 Total Gil: 2,607 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Originally Posted by Icemage | Galka Dark Knight with some accuracy gears and a Kraken Club might be able to do it using Souleater + Blood Weapon as a finisher, but even that would be iffy. 15000 HP is a lot of damage to try to deal out in such a short time frame.
Icemage | I know the Kraken Drks our LS has can do about 23k damage in thier 2hr. But thats 6 soul voiced songs, haste, and someone curebombing them if needed.
Not sure how much that would decrease without songs. Can use a haste belt for haste though.
How much can a rdm, assuming no resist, do in thier 2 hour? Might be close, if you stuck to one spell and didn't swap staves you're getting 2tp a spell. So might be close to a 100 TP after chainspell and convert to pop out a TP move. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 08:55 AM | #14 (permalink) | | <3 Duo/Trio Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 159 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 9 Thanked 22x in 18 Posts Gil: 5,947 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,947 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Mensur Epee only has 47 DMG during normal melee hits (not during WS), so I'm guessing that most of your increased weapon skill damage is from getting 3 hit Savage Blades while dual wielding rather than 2 hit Savage Blades when single wielding Joyeuse. However, the DoT of Mensur Epee is very high, so I see why it makes dual wielding worth it. Last edited by Ryoii/Nonomii : 10-17-2007 at 09:04 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-17-2007, 09:06 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Achiever Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,619 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 419 Thanked 236x in 137 Posts Gil: 1,092 Bank: 66,485 Total Gil: 67,576 Donate | Re: King Artho vs. RDM/NIN Possibly. I added the Taru RSE boots and the Warwolf belt into my macro, so maybe. Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | I swear some melee would forget their fucking weapon if they didn't have it equipped every time they logged in. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:31 AM. | | |