12-17-2003, 07:04 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,297 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,667 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,667 Donate | Opinions needed: Hume vs Taru for RDM Guys, I need some help.. I plan on being a RDM/BLM as my main, high level job. I will also experiment with DRG and THF, but I'll mainly be sticking with the Magic...
That being said, I need to narrow down my choice for race between Hume and Taru. I'm seriously leaning towards Taru because of their amazing MP stat. I would be able to deliver plenty of heals, and my fair share of nukes as well. (in addition to the debuffs)
The added INT from Tarus will be great for nuking as well. I worry a little bit about the lack of HP, but Tarus are so cute, and powerful little critters.
Hume would be your average joe, with nothing special about him, but that also makes him good... the only thing is, I don't know if I could look at a Hume character for 1000's of hours of gameplay. I do however see lots of Hume RDM on this board, many high up. Someone mentioned a Taru 70 RDM solo King arthro... is that something a Hume would not be able to do?
Any input would be greatly appreciated... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-17-2003, 07:34 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 129 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 503 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 503 Donate | Well since you become a support character I'd say Taru , I love mine. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2003, 05:54 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 103 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 140 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 140 Donate | Obviously, those are probably your two most suited races to being a RDM. It sounds like you prefer the look of Taru, so that's what you should pick. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2003, 01:20 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 253 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,203 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,203 Donate | I've been thinking of this too .. kinda conflicted.
Tarus do have more mp and int for more elemental damage.
Mp and Hp is similiar at higher levels.. better for convert? If Blink, Stoneskin and phalanx is all that matters then this could be the better one at higher lvs. Aborbing dmg and still having lots of mp left could be much better than some extra hp.
Humes have higher hp. Possibly worried about having hp dropped to red in one hit. Has an easier time with melee soloing and switching to pure melee. Yet with refresh and food you can keep your mp kinda full and convert when it's not.
That's what I think.. but want to be corrected. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2003, 02:33 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 144 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 108 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 108 Donate | If you are indeed set on being high lvl rdm in the endgame. then taru will DEFINITELY be better for parties.
I will tell you this though, it is VERY easy to solo a hum rdm in the early game. And completely viable to solo toughs (if you fight the right mobs) even at mid levels such as mine. Whereas it would be generally tougher to solo those same monsters as taru.
generally, for parties, taru will definitely be the choice to go with.
for solo, hum would be better.
but realistically, you'll be fighting in parties 85% of the time or more.
If I were you, i'd go with taru.
ps.. I went with hum because i didn't really know what i wanted to do, so with hum i could switch jobs easily if i didn't like what i started with, and not be nerfed too badly.
hope that helps you out!
have fun. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2003, 02:51 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 582 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 225 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 225 Donate | I'm with Phor on this. Anything Taru is almost anything magic. I'm however a hume rdm because its easier for me to play with any job. I like being a complete average and through a lot of the game thats what rdm is. Average in everything but enfeebling, in that they are supreme.
At level 35 I can occasionally take a lightning elemental in Junger Forest. Air Elementals are easy unless I encounter them in Burbimu(sp?). I'd take the Hume rdm so that you can easily level your subs or anything other thoughts you may have. If you are in this game for the long haul I'd suggest a race with a lot of versitality over an extreme race such as taru and galka.  Relic Stage 5: Excalibur Completed.
RDM75 / PLD73 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2003, 04:09 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,297 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,667 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,667 Donate | Thanks for the feedback so far guys, keep it coming...
One thing about soloing at mid levels (30-45) is that RSE is a major factor, and Taru RSE adds +7 to strength, which makes it even with a Hume with RSE as well. Also, RSE gear adds a full 89 HP, to give a Taru RDM/BLM 572 HP at level 40 vs a Hume with 652 (RSE equipped)
I figure after level 40, there won't be a whole lot of soloing anyway, except maybe some NM's, so soloing is not what I worry about. I played Elvaan in Beta, and I enjoyed it, but sometimes I felt gimped when it came to MP, so I want to fix that.
I also really enjoy Windurst over Bastok, and I would like to start in my Race's home city. I'm still deciding, but I have a lot of time so weigh the pros and cons. I won't have the game till march  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2003, 04:34 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 582 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 225 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 225 Donate | I'd start wherever you can get your race's ring at character creation then move to another city when you have the gil. I started in Sandy and didn't know how city migration worked. I don't know. I think taru rdm has more punch in the end but hume has more flex since its in the middle. Sometimes the best fun is the most fun, not the extremes.  Relic Stage 5: Excalibur Completed.
RDM75 / PLD73 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-21-2003, 02:43 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 195 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 300 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 300 Donate | it seems you would really enjoy playing a taru which is understandable
personally though I plan on leveling multiple jobs to 70 (rdm/brd/thf/war?) so hume makes the most sense
just my 2 cents | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-21-2003, 04:02 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 139 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,727 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,727 Donate | Remember one thing bro, Tarutaru are the best for ANY mage class. Plus a red mage is not a meele class, even though they want you to beleive that its not, RDM is a casting class so you need MP thats all you need. Plus RDM get to wear some heavy decent armor which helps out the HP and plus dont worry hp a good party will never let a cute taru down!
by the way; if your a tarutaru BLM, at higher levels you can probably nuke like crazy b/cuz of high MP, fast cast rate, after you depelete your mana convert nuke away again then get healed then convert and .... lather rinse and repeat so go Tarutaru, we are the ultimate mage class  65 RDM/ 25 BLM/ 33WHM/ 11WAR/ 15THF/ 30NIN/ 21BRD
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Goldsmithing: 22 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-22-2003, 06:12 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,297 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,667 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,667 Donate | Hehe.. thanks.
Phenum, you pretty much summed up what I was thinking about the class. Being a Hume definitely gives me an advantage if I decide to go melee or something, but if I plan on sticking with a mage class, then Taru is simply the best. I already know I love RDM from beta, so I am going to do everything I can to be a better RDM, and if that means changing races, so be it. Taru's are much cuter than Elvaan anyway.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-22-2003, 07:22 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 18 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 185 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 185 Donate | rdmgs are mages that can deal magic and add some renkei more effectively than other mages. Also, once you get several passive abilities with a wht/blk mage subjob, your mp doesn't seem so short, unless you are in a real long battle. Really, it doesn't matter what race you are, since you can take any path you want. But if your pt does their job right (and u do too), then the mp shortage with Hume wont matter much.
Also, i'm in much agreement with the others about the abilty to be anything with Hume. Sooner or later, pple get bored with thier job. Taru can melee, but it normally takes out the point of choosing a taru in the first place.  If your going to be a failure, you might as well be one at something you enjoy | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-22-2003, 08:31 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 184 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 182 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 182 Donate | The real bottom line here is, you can't go wrong with either of these two races. Though in my opinion the Human/Mithra is most suited to the Red Mage because of it's diversity of abillities....
Really, you can't go wrong with either Hume/Mithra or Taru.
Disadvantages to Taru are the Lack of Hit points which means you go down much faster than the Human and I've seen it happen before with Taru Rdms vs Human Rdms. But at the same time... you've got about 20% more mana. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-22-2003, 10:10 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 582 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 225 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 225 Donate | I love being an rdm but I'm going to be taking time away from redmage so that I don't get bored with it. I almost hit level 38 and its time for gilfarming and subjob raising. I'll probably leveling ranger for the fun of it since I want to try it out.
If you do that with taru you are a tad gimped. Like a galka blackmage for instance. However I know someone that is doing it to prove it can be done.  Relic Stage 5: Excalibur Completed.
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