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Old 11-14-2008, 06:22 PM   #31
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Re: Elemental Arrow Question

Don't fight mobs with tough self-buffs solo if you can't dispel? It's not like there aren't subbable dispels, if you need them *that* bad. And some buffs can even be "dispelled" by acid bolts.

It's no worse than not fighting petrifying mobs solo if you can't de-petrify yourself[*], or not fighting self-destructing mobs solo if you can't stun, or not fighting mage beastmen solo if you can't silence or stun, or not fighting pots and ahriman solo when you're a BLM, or not fighting slimes and clots solo when you're a monk. Pick your targets based on your capabilities, or in a party, pick your party members based on your intended targets.

I have three of the most different jobs in FFXI and all of them can solo competently on the right targets, which are different targets for different jobs.

[*] Yes, exactly. That's why nobody does.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:32 PM   #32
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This game is group-based first and foremost, there's a reason for both decisions. If you want to solo EXP and you think their HP counts are too much, tough cookies. Get a duo partner and make Level 3 SCs for awesome damage. If mobs with self-buffs are bringing you down then simply don't fight them. It's like saying "Mobs with evasion down screw over THF and NIN if they don't have Erase." Yeah, well, that's why they avoid mobs with Evasion Down.

Yes well for quite a long time that was totally unavoidable and at certain level ranges it still is (or at least the alternatives blow)

Or have you forgotten what a complete pain in the ass crawlers crabs and beetles can be with no dispel? (At least not a frequent one like RDM's)
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:30 PM   #33
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Re: Elemental Arrow Question

You know, I think we pretty much covered the topic at hand. Does this really need to degenerate into yet another game/EXP mechanics discussion or yet another broken idea wishlist for Malacite? Players always have and always will find the weakest shit to fight, before ToA, that was crabs.

Long of the short - Elemental Arrows suck. Elemental Arrow procs are as LOL as Enspell damage.

Want better damage arrows pre-60 and post scorpion arrows? I'd sooner use Bodkin arrows than elemental arrows. If I want magic damage, Holy Bolts have the best longevity of most ammo in the game, especially with a good MND build. Use your AF pants and move up from there.

There's really nothing more to say.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:21 PM   #34
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[quote=Omgwtfbbqkitten;812168]You know, I think we pretty much covered the

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Old 11-17-2008, 08:04 AM   #35
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Long of the short - Elemental Arrows suck. Elemental Arrow procs are as LOL as Enspell damage.
23+ hp/swing of hateless damage that feeds no extra TP with a multihit weapon isn't really something to scoff at in many situations.
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Callisto you are supposed to say Enspell dmg sucks so they don't start crying nerf if we ever got Enspells tier II. (-_-; )
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:11 PM   #37
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Callisto you are supposed to say Enspell dmg sucks so they don't start crying nerf if we ever got Enspells tier II. (-_-; )
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:13 PM   #38
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That's exactly what I was thinking but I was already mean to Ray in the update thread. Now that someone else was mean for me it's ok if I join in.
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Re: Elemental Arrow Question

semi-on topic but oh lawdy I hit 20% gear Haste in my TP set now, the Enspell damage is nasty at the moment with ESword + Joyeuse, but I'm really hurting for a Justice Sword.

Edit: Turns out this is actually still the RNG forums, so I guess that wasn't even semi on topic. Whoops
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:42 PM   #40
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23+ hp/swing of hateless damage that feeds no extra TP with a multihit weapon isn't really something to scoff at in many situations.
My holy bolts are still laughing.

Enspells are much more worthwhile when you can give them to everyone, not so much when its just one guy that has them, mulit-hit or not.
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