RNG / COR? is it any good? - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

Takiri · 07-26-2006, 12:42 PM

Not sure if it has been asked before.

Pros?
Cons?

kuu · 07-26-2006, 12:46 PM

Emm....

Lack of racc
Lack of dual wield
Lack of power
Lack of shadows

Dead ranger.

You get 1 phantom roll...below lvl 37 max...might as well sub brd at that rate.

Omni · 07-26-2006, 12:49 PM

er... not really any benefits tbh.
you get 1 roll and at i believe less potency.

your job as rng is to deal dmg. thats it. rng are not built for providing any support.
so as a dd, you want to do whatever it takes to make yourself most effective at hurting the enemy.

the 2 most commonly used subs are:

/war for down right power and big numbers.
/nin for a bit more accuracy and better survivability.

with /cor you can use the hunters roll or thfs roll or chaos roll to boost your output but, all those rolls are covered and bettered by using the above said subjobs.

other rolls might be useful for other jobs perhaps, but you are thus limiting your output. let a cor be a cor. cor can be semi-rng too. if thats what you are looking for, play cor. cor is what a lot of people call, the offensive brd. try it out, they might be what you want.

good luck!

Sirius · 07-26-2006, 03:35 PM

If you want those together I'd say COR/RNG.

Why do I get the feeling this will be another job I am kicked out of parties for not having /nin?

"Ok we have our party all rea- Wait, why is our RNG subbing WAR? And Elvaan?"

My NIN is lvl 5, I do not feel the need to go "POOF". Though, I do see the reason.

Omni · 07-26-2006, 04:04 PM

cor/rng is actually the standard sub i see.

lv. 30 latents, barrage, sharpshot and slugshot at its normal lvl. of 55 is imo, far better than having dual knives and utsusemi.

you really shouldnt be hitting that hard anyways since no access to silver bullets. your dmg will be dulled down a bit but still pretty damn good for a support job.

Tirrock · 07-26-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Sirius

"Ok we have our party all rea- Wait, why is our RNG subbing WAR? And Elvaan?"

WAR sub on RNG is perfectly fine, so long as you're not pulling anything faster than you. It's still better to have both WAR and NIN available as subs though.

Caspian · 07-27-2006, 01:26 AM

OT, but yes, its best if you can both subjobs available. I xp with /WAR and intend on doing HNM's with that setup too. You just have to learn how to control hate better. However, there are some quests and such where its nice to have /NIN available. It may also be needed later if you take part in any ammo or tp burn parties.

On-topic, as was said, best not to sub COR for anything I can currently think of, but vice versa, RNG is a great sub for COR. Not only do you get some great JA's and a couple of the accuracy traits, you also get to use the lvl 30 belt with +3 marksmenship skill latent. Always a nice thing to have.

Machaveli · 08-14-2006, 01:19 PM

Pros - Every minute you get a small boost to 1 stat.

Cons - Hmmm... lets see.

No shadows to fall back on if you pull hate or pull a fast moving mob
No 2nd weapon slot for increased r.acc/r.atk
No stat boosts from sub
No Berserk for major damage increases

There's really no real reason to sub COR on your RNG. The reverse is quite good though. COR/RNG is quite nice I hear.

Omgwtfbbqkitten · 09-18-2006, 02:59 PM

Has it been confirmed whether or no Pirate's Cape and Pirate's earring are /COR latent? If so SE might have been thinking RNG/COR, but even with those latents activated, I can't really see how /COR would be worth it.

Jei · 09-18-2006, 04:33 PM

pro - you'll get to solo your whole life
con - you'll get to solo your whole life

Icemage · 09-18-2006, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jei

pro - you'll get to solo your whole life
con - you'll get to solo your whole life

I think that just about sums it up right there.

/COR has its uses at times at end-game, but the only job that seems to seriously be able to get away with using /COR in XP parties is well-geared WHM/COR in certain parties (i.e. any time when you don't really need any other support job abilities and just want an XP boost simply because "you can").

Icemage

Aeni · 09-18-2006, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Icemage

I think that just about sums it up right there.

/COR has its uses at times at end-game, but the only job that seems to seriously be able to get away with using /COR in XP parties is well-geared WHM/COR in certain parties (i.e. any time when you don't really need any other support job abilities and just want an XP boost simply because "you can").

Icemage

Or the lol<job> that is leeching exp. At least if they're gonna leech, they should boost the overall exp to make up for that.

Queen Uma · 09-19-2006, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Icemage

/COR has its uses at times at end-game, but the only job that seems to seriously be able to get away with using /COR in XP parties is well-geared WHM/COR in certain parties (i.e. any time when you don't really need any other support job abilities and just want an XP boost simply because "you can").

I have actually seen brd/cor used very effectivly in an xp party. We had both a whm and a smn/whm in the party to let him try it.

Omgwtfbbqkitten · 09-22-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by queenuma

I have actually seen brd/cor used very effectivly in an xp party. We had both a whm and a smn/whm in the party to let him try it.

WHM/COR i can see, but all COR's best buffs lie beyond 37 (with good reason), so what was this BRD/COR rolling with his songs? I can see giving up Ballad since Ballad II would be more than sufficient in that situation. Chaos and Hunter's roll are rather weak comparted to Minuet and Madrigal, Healer's Roll could be a little helpful or even Beast Roll for SMN pet... but I just get the feeling it was for Corsair's Roll. If it was a merit PT, I guess thats OK, but if not, another song would have been better.