08-25-2004, 05:15 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 241 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 241 Donate | Elvaan Ranger Is elvaan ranger a good choice??? They have the lowest agility but in all of the cinemas and the pictures i see them frequently. Can someone give me some reasons why they are good as rangers and why they arent, thanx in advance!!! Sorry if this has been done before!  Dont mess with me man, I got limit breaks!!!:
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And i am not afraid to use them because they all PWN you!!!! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-25-2004, 05:47 PM | #2 (permalink) | | From Beneath You, It Devours Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,479 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 46 Thanked 162x in 113 Posts Gil: 22,837 Bank: 87,061 Total Gil: 109,898 Donate | Basically what it boils down to is this:
Elvaan: lowest agility but highest strength, and what many ppl consider to be the coolest animations
Mithra: highest agility but lower strength
The differences in STR ang AGI early in the game are very low, and by the time when you reach 75 where they are at there greatest, it boils down to around 7 r. acc...easily overcome with the proper gear, and likewise if you're a mithra looking for extra strength. The general consensus is that race is the least important stat when it comes to jobs like these. (Player performance being first and foremost followed by gear).
There's actually a forum right under this one about this topic that is more explanatory...its titled mithra or elvaan? take a look at it, it has some good insights. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-26-2004, 06:28 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 27 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 97 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 97 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Prince Caspian Basically what it boils down to is this:
Elvaan: lowest agility but highest strength, and what many ppl consider to be the coolest animations
Mithra: highest agility but lower strength
The differences in STR ang AGI early in the game are very low, and by the time when you reach 75 where they are at there greatest, it boils down to around 7 r. acc...easily overcome with the proper gear, and likewise if you're a mithra looking for extra strength. The general consensus is that race is the least important stat when it comes to jobs like these. (Player performance being first and foremost followed by gear).
There's actually a forum right under this one about this topic that is more explanatory...its titled mithra or elvaan? take a look at it, it has some good insights. | He couldnt have said it any better Final Fantasy XI (PS2) Mercutia: Elvaan Female | San'dorian | Rank 5 | Midgardsormr Linkshell: TheHeavenKnights Job Levels: THF49 RNG42 NIN30 Currently: RNG42/NIN21 Gobbie Bag: 5/5 ^_^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-27-2004, 12:29 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 30 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 324 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 324 Donate | many elv rngs in my server. Very powerful, their dmg is amazing, whatever race it is, if you have right gear, thats all its matters. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-27-2004, 01:00 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 572 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,982 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,982 Donate | I would say Elvaan do the most dmg as RNG... Races really dont matter but after leveling my tHF with my friend RNG who was hume he did 1000 dmg slug shot in Ro'Maeve with Othinus Bow' and me as elvaan I do 1200 O_O and only difference in our gear is I ahve Striders and Optical hat. www.ex-online.com LiveJournal NIN75 THF75 RNG75 WAR75 BST66 DRG64
レベルã?‚ã?’ï¼°ï¼´ã?„ã??ã?¾ã?›ã‚“ã?‹ï¼Ÿï¼¾ï¼¾ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-28-2004, 10:18 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 572 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,982 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,982 Donate | I think the pic below says its all.
Meecha is a mithra and I am elvaan.
Same level and our gear is almost same escept i am accuracy based and she is attack based.
I missed one slug shot out of like 50
She missed atleast 2-3
I out dmg her on almost every hit and on every slug shot.
Theres ur answer.. its clear :spin: www.ex-online.com LiveJournal NIN75 THF75 RNG75 WAR75 BST66 DRG64
レベルã?‚ã?’ï¼°ï¼´ã?„ã??ã?¾ã?›ã‚“ã?‹ï¼Ÿï¼¾ï¼¾ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-28-2004, 11:07 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 127 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 290 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 290 Donate | I could show the screenshot of me hitting 1900 slug shot in an exp pt, and say "taru str isn't gimped!".. but it wouldn't be fair choosing one screenshot
Run a parser and compare.. last elvaan ranger i played with was a total let down.. but he was a japanese guy who stopped firing all the time so he wouldn't get aggro :sweat: | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-28-2004, 11:21 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,900 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,900 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Stanislav I would say Elvaan do the most dmg as RNG... Races really dont matter | Sounds like you can't make up your mind. | Quote: | Originally posted by Stanislav I think the pic below says its all.
I out dmg her on almost every hit and on every slug shot.
Theres ur answer.. its clear :spin: | /sigh Why can't you just say the races are equal? And that equipment makes the ranger.
Was gonna post a counterpoint supporting mithra rng > elvaan rng, but not gonna be a hypocrite. :dead: | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-29-2004, 10:50 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 48 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 274 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 274 Donate | slugshot/sidewinder dmg is really big range, i can pull a 900 sidewinder, next 1 1500. race doesnt matter much for rng as much as other jobs (galka blms, elvaan thfs) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-29-2004, 01:47 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 572 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,982 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,982 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Narru Sounds like you can't make up your mind.
/sigh Why can't you just say the races are equal? And that equipment makes the ranger.
Was gonna post a counterpoint supporting mithra rng > elvaan rng, but not gonna be a hypocrite. :dead: | It was kinda a joke post becuase if u notice she has ATK gear and I hve ACC gear.. There was only 1-2 slugs shots that I have a big range over her, but normally it was like 20-80 dmg difference.
I am just saying Elvaan better cause I am Elvaan :sweat:
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レベルã?‚ã?’ï¼°ï¼´ã?„ã??ã?¾ã?›ã‚“ã?‹ï¼Ÿï¼¾ï¼¾ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-29-2004, 01:49 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 572 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,982 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,982 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by RangerDade slugshot/sidewinder dmg is really big range, i can pull a 900 sidewinder, next 1 1500. race doesnt matter much for rng as much as other jobs (galka blms, elvaan thfs) | Same goes for THF and RNG... BLM does have a difference though.
Here is proof for THF  www.ex-online.com LiveJournal NIN75 THF75 RNG75 WAR75 BST66 DRG64
レベルã?‚ã?’ï¼°ï¼´ã?„ã??ã?¾ã?›ã‚“ã?‹ï¼Ÿï¼¾ï¼¾ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-29-2004, 06:15 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 302 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 592 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 592 Donate | THF is a totally different matter regarding race than RNG is. With sneak attack being based solely on dex and not str and trick being based on agi and also not str, a mithra in the same gear is going to do noticably more damage. If you ask me, elvaan is really the worst race for a thf for their poor dex compared to a mithra :\  Woodworking: 60
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Record holder on Worm's Turn: 6 minutes 19 seconds. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-30-2004, 01:27 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 199 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 772 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 772 Donate | um get a ranger to do sidewinder to that same fly they will do more than a thief guaranteed | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-30-2004, 01:47 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 3,241 Bank: 319 Total Gil: 3,561 Donate | I've partied with some really crappy RNGs, and some pretty good ones. I partied with an Elvaan RNG who broke the bank on all his gear, did good damage but was a chicken shit. So he slowed down his damage instead of trusting the tank.
I partied with a Mithran RNG, who seemed to rarely miss, but would start the fight out with Barrage and wonder why he died so damn much. (Honestly, I've seen a lot of RNGs use Barrage before PLD can get a real hold on hate.)
For me, my RNG is only Lv.17. I think with rings, bow, necklace and arrows, I have RngAcc+18. And I think I have AGI+3. I hit at a decent percentage, but the other RNGs I have seen have poor gear. AGI+1 rings, instead of RngAcc+3 rings. Still using Lv.12 bow. As a WAR with a Great Axe, I could hit them at times. (RngDmg41 (highest) 55 Critical | Great Axe 45 a number of times, and 75 Critical) But I do realize those were two weak RNGs.
At Lv.17 with the gear I have, I hit at a good rate, even with my crappy Elvaan AGI.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-30-2004, 02:51 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 199 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 772 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 772 Donate | nyeh lotsa poopy rangers around these days ._. last inght there were 3 rangers lfg at jeuno so sad ._. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:41 PM. | | |