08-08-2004, 09:34 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 199 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 772 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 772 Donate | Question about sidewinder How much does AGI/CHR affect sidewinder, someone said it does alot. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-08-2004, 09:37 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 302 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 592 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 592 Donate | CHR? O.o AGI, DEX, and STR affect it a lot. AGI makes up your racc, DEX your likeliness to critical (not sure if it applies to weapon skills), and STR helps determine raw damage. No idea wtf CHR does though in all that... nothing I think.   Woodworking: 60
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Record holder on Worm's Turn: 6 minutes 19 seconds. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 08:00 AM | #3 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,535 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 51,613 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 51,613 Donate | there are rumors that CHR affects your WS damage. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 10:32 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 43 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 165 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 165 Donate | Can't confirm, BUT SE DID say that it affected SOME WS. My bet is that the Seraph/Light WS's are the ones where CHR makes a diff. It would explain the friggin huge DMG on some of them. (Mutter's about WHM's hexastrike...) I'm pretty sure Sidewinder/Slugshot are not affected by CHR, since Galka, Mithra, and the rest seem to do the same DMG more or less.  Cooking: 60, Alchemy: 56, Smithing: 41, Goldsmithing: 15, Woodworking: 9, Leathercraft: 11, Boneworking: 1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 11:06 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 199 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 772 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 772 Donate | yeah friend bought 2 hawkers knifes and was yelling at me saying chr affected sidewinder a bundle i was skeptical o.O | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 02:23 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 397 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 68 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 68 Donate | If you want SW damage I would be more concerned with base weapon damage and attack. Oh, and missing. Missing sucks. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 02:43 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 864 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,246 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,246 Donate | | Quote: | | yeah friend bought 2 hawkers knifes and was yelling at me saying chr affected sidewinder a bundle i was skeptical o.O | chr doesn't affect sidewinder at all. 0 influence.
He's like the rng that says Str doesn't affect gun damage. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 03:14 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 302 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 592 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 592 Donate | only reason CHR is on the weapon, methinks, is because BSTs are the only other class who can use it. NO CLUE why because you never see a BST wielding one as it sucks compared to axes, but I think that's the reason.  Woodworking: 60
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Record holder on Worm's Turn: 6 minutes 19 seconds. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-09-2004, 09:00 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 267 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 188 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 188 Donate | Here's the deelio. WS's are somewhat affected by stats. For example impaction-type WSes get's bonus from DEX.
This is what SE stated in their interview a while back, that stats that may seem useless (for instance, CHR) can affext WS damage.
My conclusion came from the REALLY weak Sam WS Tachi: Goten, which really sucks. I did ok with it, thanks to mithra high dex, and did about 10 with, and 10 without +7 dex. The ones with +dex did higher damage.
Might have been a fluke, but same ws on same mob (quifim clippers, weak to thunder, so no resist ^^) should generate similar results. The difference was around 50dmg.
Well. There it is. Now you just have to look up what stat corresponds with what element. Like Vit - Earth ^^.  ã?™ã??らã??ã?«ã?—ã?¦ã‚„ã‚‹
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http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=460499 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-11-2004, 03:00 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,009 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14x in 8 Posts Gil: 10,221 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,221 Donate | Re: Here's the deelio. | Quote: | Originally posted by DrSerpico
WS's are somewhat affected by stats. For example impaction-type WSes get's bonus from DEX.
This is what SE stated in their interview a while back, that stats that may seem useless (for instance, CHR) can affext WS damage. | They did say that some WSes are affected by CHR, but nowhere in that interview did they say that Impaction-type WS are affected by DEX. If this were true, Viper Bite would be affected by VIT.
Please provide a link to the interview with the Impaction claim. Centurio X-I 1/1 - Celphie 1/1 - Deadly Dodo 0/2 - Doppleganger Dio 0/1 - Jaggedy-eared Jack 0/7 - Joo Duzu the Whirlwind 1/1 - Leaping Lizzy 2/16 - Mimas 0/1 - Odqan 1/9 - Orcish Wallbreacher 0/1 - Ose 1/3 - Sagittarius X-XIII 1/1 - Serpopard Ishtar 3/6 - Silk Caterpillar 1/2 - Tom Tit Tat 0/2 - Trickster Kinetix 0/2 - Valkurm Emperor 6/10 - Wyvernpoacher Drachlox 1/1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-11-2004, 08:54 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 302 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 592 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 592 Donate | I think it's plausible but haven't seen any solid proof.  Woodworking: 60
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