06-25-2004, 11:40 AM | #16 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 321 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 527 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 527 Donate | RSE Elv feet can be taken in place of leaping boots, the RSE gives the same amount of agi (+3). RSE Elv pants give +2 , you can use those instead of martial slacks(mispelling?). RK +1 belt and +2 belt only have 1 rng atk difference and +2 is more expensive.  ________________________
RIP Lazane RIP | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-27-2004, 10:20 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,187 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,187 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Neban Waist – I don’t find much value in the speed belt given haste/slow does not effect ranged attacks, though you could make a case for it helping gain TP quicker. | Wait a sec here... the Haste given by the Speed/Sonic belts DO NOT effect ranged attacks??
Oh and thanks for the info about the side effects of wearing Crimson. ^^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-27-2004, 06:10 PM | #18 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 21 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 21 Donate | To my knowledge, no form of haste/slow has any effect on the pace of ranged attacks. The spells certainly don’t, I would think the same to be true of the speed belt and similar items. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-29-2004, 10:38 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 48 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 239 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 239 Donate | just to correct neb, its on dragoon type mob its gives you "<insert PC Here> is intimtate by <insert drg mob name here>"
id go with kirin osode over AF body, i think +10 all stats > +10 rng acc when you have ~100 rng acc.
oh and for speed/sonic belt, it doesnt affect rng atks, but it affects casting of blink, if you want to blinktank.(same goes for byakko hediate) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-05-2004, 07:36 PM | #20 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 397 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 49 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 49 Donate | After finally getting a chance to goof around with the AF headpiece, I can safely say it is a -highly- underated piece of equipment.
Just from goofing around tonight, Rapid shot is up to 1:4 to 1:7 at worst. If you have the Acc to hit even reasonably consistantly, there is no good reason to get rid of this piece. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2004, 09:10 PM | #22 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,009 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14x in 8 Posts Gil: 7,999 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,999 Donate | I just can't see keeping a Peacock Charm, unless you already have every other piece of uber accuracy equipment in the game.
Selling a Peacock can buy you:
Hawker's Knives x2
Nomad's Mantle +1
Mage Cuffs
Emperor Hairpin
Winged Boots
...with millions to spare. Depending on the server, you can probably buy a freakin' E-bow with Peacock proceeds.
Peacock is effectively RACC+5, RATK-5. The above equipment gives you RACC+5 over their next best substitutes. Unless you already have all of that stuff, Peacock Charm is a waste for RNG. Centurio X-I 1/1 - Celphie 1/1 - Deadly Dodo 0/2 - Doppleganger Dio 0/1 - Jaggedy-eared Jack 0/7 - Joo Duzu the Whirlwind 1/1 - Leaping Lizzy 2/16 - Mimas 0/1 - Odqan 1/9 - Orcish Wallbreacher 0/1 - Ose 1/3 - Sagittarius X-XIII 1/1 - Serpopard Ishtar 3/6 - Silk Caterpillar 1/2 - Tom Tit Tat 0/2 - Trickster Kinetix 0/2 - Valkurm Emperor 6/10 - Wyvernpoacher Drachlox 1/1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2004, 09:22 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 397 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 49 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 49 Donate | I think you mean Amemit+1. I can't see giving up 2 str and 15 Ratt for 2 points of agility.
Spidey has a good point though, you can buy all that crap, and get a pair of spectacles with a few million to spare for the argus charm. Granted, none of that other stuff really is the status symbol the peacock charm is.. so if thats what you're after.. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-11-2004, 09:32 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 864 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 929 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 929 Donate | I'd like to add Ammemit +1, hawkers +1, and dusk trousers to that list.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-12-2004, 07:24 AM | #25 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,009 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14x in 8 Posts Gil: 7,999 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,999 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by greysenn
I think you mean Amemit+1. I can't see giving up 2 str and 15 Ratt for 2 points of agility. | No, I meant Nomad's +1. Peacock Charm is essentially saying that you are going all out for RACC at expense of damage (you lose 5 RATK compared to Ranger's Necklace) so the most logical comparison would be to an accuracy mantle. Centurio X-I 1/1 - Celphie 1/1 - Deadly Dodo 0/2 - Doppleganger Dio 0/1 - Jaggedy-eared Jack 0/7 - Joo Duzu the Whirlwind 1/1 - Leaping Lizzy 2/16 - Mimas 0/1 - Odqan 1/9 - Orcish Wallbreacher 0/1 - Ose 1/3 - Sagittarius X-XIII 1/1 - Serpopard Ishtar 3/6 - Silk Caterpillar 1/2 - Tom Tit Tat 0/2 - Trickster Kinetix 0/2 - Valkurm Emperor 6/10 - Wyvernpoacher Drachlox 1/1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-12-2004, 07:32 AM | #26 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 397 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 49 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 49 Donate | I wouldn't necessairly say that. Peacock charm is the best item in the game in terms over overall accuracy (ranged and melee). Whether you actually use much of the "overall" is up to debate.
The extra 5 acc in that slot lets you put str and attack gear in all of the other slots, and still have a relatively same level of accuracy. Obviously nobody is going to be ditching their hawkers, or well.. everything else you can replace in most cases. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-12-2004, 10:59 AM | #28 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,009 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 14x in 8 Posts Gil: 7,999 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,999 Donate | Narru, you should add Wool Cuffs +1 (AGI+1), Mage Cuffs (AGI+2) and Jagd Gorget (DEF:2 RACC+5 RATK+6) to the list, for sake of being complete. Centurio X-I 1/1 - Celphie 1/1 - Deadly Dodo 0/2 - Doppleganger Dio 0/1 - Jaggedy-eared Jack 0/7 - Joo Duzu the Whirlwind 1/1 - Leaping Lizzy 2/16 - Mimas 0/1 - Odqan 1/9 - Orcish Wallbreacher 0/1 - Ose 1/3 - Sagittarius X-XIII 1/1 - Serpopard Ishtar 3/6 - Silk Caterpillar 1/2 - Tom Tit Tat 0/2 - Trickster Kinetix 0/2 - Valkurm Emperor 6/10 - Wyvernpoacher Drachlox 1/1 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-14-2004, 11:43 AM | #29 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,187 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,187 Donate | Sorry, I was away for a week so couldn't post. I'm back now | Quote: | Originally posted by RangerDade Id go with kirin osode over AF body, i think +10 all stats > +10 rng acc when you have ~100 rng acc. | I like this idea. Although I would never say "there comes a point where you have too much ranged acc" ( as I'm trying to design a HNM ranger build ), I have another thought... I do not have evidence for this conclusion, but will construct my gear towards this paradigm anyway -
If 2 Agi = 1 Ranged Acc, given a choice between 10 Agi or 5 Ranged Acc, I'd go with the Agi. Furthermore, given a choice between 8 Agi or 5 Ranged Acc, I'd go with the 8 Agi. Taking a look at the Seiryu's Kote (Agi+15, Ranged Acc+10), I feel the incredible boost gotten from these pair of gloves isn't really the +17.5 Ranged Acc, but actually from the large boost in Agi.
Thus I'll add Kirin's Osode to the list over the AF Body. Besides, if you're strutting around in that bodypiece, you're super uber anyways | Quote: | Originally posted by Spider-Dan I just can't see keeping a Peacock Charm
Peacock is effectively RACC+5, RATK-5. The above equipment gives you RACC+5 over their next best substitutes. Unless you already have all of that stuff, Peacock Charm is a waste for RNG. | No, peacock is effectively RACC+5, RATK-5, ACC+10 (and some DRK I don't care about). Majority of rangers gain TP through dagger and ranged. I like now the Peacock tries to counteract all the -acc rangers have from their other items. | Quote: | Originally posted by poweryoga I'd like to add Ammemit +1, hawkers +1, and dusk trousers to that list. | Thought they were already on the list...but I'll double check. | Quote: | Originally posted by greysenn The extra 5 acc in that slot lets you put str and attack gear in all of the other slots, and still have a relatively same level of accuracy. | Very good. ^_^ I've been trying to replace certain pieces with +Str items, but am having bad luck with the results. | Quote: | Originally posted by tongyang I'm putting this as a sticky | Danka | Quote: | Originally posted by Spider-Dan Narru, you should add Wool Cuffs +1 (AGI+1), Mage Cuffs (AGI+2) and Jagd Gorget (DEF:2 RACC+5 RATK+6) to the list, for sake of being complete. | Posted this just as the patch hit, so sure I'll make the updates. Thanks. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-03-2004, 01:33 AM | #30 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 71 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 178 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 178 Donate | The intimidation effect only happens against things that have dragon killer, which amounts to Dragoon class beastmen, and a few demons. Fafnir wouldn't cause this (I have them, have fought Fafnir with them, never been intimidated). I would be more worried about RDMs wearing them if I was a dragoon or wearing a Hrotti >.>
I prefer the 10 attack over the agility from the Kote, but that's my personal preference. I don't miss as it is in normal instances.
Peacock is useless. If you have enough money to buy that you should be shooting often enough to offset any missing from your melee attacks. Sell it and buy more ammo.
Other items to add to your list:
Kriegsbeil. 1H axe, D48 Agi+5 R. Acc+4 R.Atk+8 Lvl 70
Drops from the Behemoth BC99...hasn't shown up in Ragnarok AH yet.
Dragon Rings if you want to be thrifty.
AF2 body ;O Osode is nice, but Rapid Shot+5, Hate-3, and so sexy ..... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:37 AM. | | |