so many poor newb rangers ;;

[Crimespree]

Why are so many poor people playing ranger? I almost got passed up for invite because the leader had bad experience with ranger... lol level 40 ranger using iron arrows? lol...

Im a level 43 NA ranger with emp hairpin, mages cuffs, and leaping boots, and I use scorpion arrows exclusively. The leader said i was doing 2x the damage the other ranger he partied with was doing. lol. why play ranger if youre poor?

[greysenn]

Why are there so many mages playing missing half their spells? Why are there so many melee without anything close to up to date gear? You can apply this question to any class.

If people want to suck because they're not keeping current, thats their buisness. Just write names down or remember the particularly bad ones.

[Dustt]

/sigh
Listen guys, not everyone can use the top notch stuff all the time. Sure if they use iron at 40, don't you think there may be reason?
Heres an idea, seeing as none of us wants RNG to get a bad name, why don't you /tell the next guy like that to "Hey use silver, it's not that much higher or better yet, scorp." or "If you need cash, goto [insert zone] and farm [mob]" or OMG YOUR GONNA HATE THIS, help them or float the poor broke noob some funds.
IMHO this is a community based game not a "haha my [job] is better than your job!" game.
Or let me put it this way, STOP BITCHING ABOUT PEOPLE AND START HELPING PEOPLE.
For the record, those few(very few) times I'm too low on funds and my equipment isnt top notch, I try not to pt. And if asked to pt i tell them "My eq isn't the best" and tell them why.

[Cometgreen]

I believe quite a few people like to use iron arrows for normal mobs because they're cheap and, unlike scorpion arrows, are quiverable. That doesn't mean they should carry iron arrows exclusively; horn arrows should be used during barrage or WS, imo, and a few stacks of Scorpion arrows should be taken as well during xp parties. But the price difference between Silver and Iron arrows is quite a bit for, what, 5 more dmg? It's understandable. Maybe not preferable, and not what I intend to do, but understandable. Especially when Rangers shell out most of their cash for top-of-the-line equipment.

Now, if the guy was using a boomerang or something, then you got a point.

Cometgreen

[greysenn]

You should have the most up to date +1 bows and rings availible as well as the "standard" ranger equipment. The other stuff is nice, (emp hairpin, etc) but it's cost effectiveness is not nearly as good vs the rings, bows, archers knife, etc.

As for arrows, you should also be using the most up to date arrow. Besides doing more damage, using cheap arrows doesn't really save you money. Difference in damage between iron and silver/horn is only about 10 per arrow yeah. With food it becomes 20 per hit. And with berserk on top of that, it's 30 per hit. So in order to be doing your full potential of damage (Being right underneath the tanks hate) you have to use MORE arrows. Maybe not twice as many, but enough to make a noticeable difference.
Plus the damage really shows up in your skillchains and barrages.

Comet, scorps go for 1300 per stack on my server, and are quiverable. Thats 100 less than horn arrows and probably 300-500 less than silvers.

[b4kan3k0]

Since lvl 1 i've been using up do take eq all the way to 51, however i've only used iron arrows and will continue to do it with lvling. @lvl 50->51 I used well over 15 stacks to lvl in garlaige. I know that being RNG means you have to shell out lots of gil to maximize dmg, but even while farming and lvling at the same time I find myself under 10k gil at all times.

Barrage + Sharpshot at lvl 50 usually comes out well over 300 on the beetles in garlaige and hate is still hard to keep with a PLD. So far nobody that i have pt'ed with has complained about the iron arrows. I do, however, use elemental arrows for WS and 2hrs as the dmg is slightly better. Just hit 51 recently. 10k tnl. I'm pretty sure its gonna be about 20 stacks to lvl. Pay 600/stack of irons or pay 1200-1400/stack for a lil boost in dmg/accuracy. Most rng's prefer the iron's and spend the excess money updating their eq to the best.

I duno about other rng's but I usually don't get passed up for invites unless a mage/tank is required for the pt in Ragnarok. RNG's unfortunately need to farm lots -.-;; It's true tho...you can't be poor lol...i spent way too much on this job alone.

[poweryoga]

which is why i make my own scorpion arrows.

i make it for about 2k for 4 stacks, which means 500 gil for each stack. Cheaper than the AH, cheaper than Irons, does about 2x as much damage.

Try to find a woodcrafter friend to see if s/he can make you arrows at cost. if you can't, offer to pay him/her a little less than the AH so they still make money.

oh, bring your own materials... when my LS mates ask me to make them arrows, i hate it when i have to camp the sandy woodshop...

[FeralisCallidus]

SCORPION ARROWS are NOT quiverable.

Don't know why. But they aren't. I wish they were =\

And, in regards to your Barrage doing 300 dmg...


Mine did about 550 =\ (scorpion arrows)

[b4kan3k0]

550 dmg gains too much hate oO;; i like using barrage whenever it's ready. I was in a pt w/ a crappy JP PLD last night -.-;; he couldnt even hold hate while i normally fire....barrrage = me tanking =(.... i need better pld to pt w/ me..

Hey how much gil did it take to get woodworking to scorpion arrows? I'd like to get mine up there too if it only costs 500per stack.

[greysenn]

Oops. Forgot Scorps were the oddball ones out of the set, just couldn't remember which ones. They need to fix that :/

[tonka]

"So many"? There are a few rangers who are poor and sometimes use their daggers too much instead of shooting, but for the most part rangers are using good equipment.

If you want to complain, complain about players not using food. The difference between most of the arrows is negligible compared to those players not using mithkabobs.

[GCWIV]

Hi Garudians and Fellow FFXI players!

About the noob thing, in March it'll get worse a lot worse

[FeralisCallidus]

If you want to complain, complain about players not using food. The difference between most of the arrows is negligible compared to those players not using mithkabobs.

Actually, it's about the same magnitude.

[Darkmana]

i've read a lot of these threads and everyone just pisses me right off. how selfish are people to say "if you cant afford the BEST equipment for your level, dont play as ranger" if your gonna act like that toward someone who is obviously struggling to get along then you should'nt be playing this game. insted of bitching and whining about it, how about you help them. you ever thought they might not know the best way to farm? or an efficient way? the most money i've ever had at one time was 12.5k and i'm damn proud of that. no one has shown me how to farm well, or even told me a good place to and yet i always seem to get by. i'm a ranger at level 8 now and i love it and if i run out of money sometime then so be it.

just because your level like 50+ dont give you the right to say to someone they cant play that job cuz they dont know how to right. someone can have a bad experiance with any job not just ranger. i've seen a lvl 25 blm that only had fire as his max spell and yet i did'nt abuse him or tell him off for it. i felt sorry because he had'nt really grasped the idea of farming or that he was so low on cash i even gave him 2k toward thunder. if you dont want to help someone out that is struggling fine then thats your choice, DONT tell someone off cuz your beliefs are diffrent.

[Mikeb]

Lets put it this way - if someone has gimp equipment they won't get invited into parties. It will take them alot longer to lvl up, alot more sitting around, and they won't be having much fun. Yes, they are totally free to use whatever horrible equipment they want, and I am also free to not invite them into my group. If there was a BLM in my group with only Fire at lvl 25, he'd be getting kicked right away.

Also, I have alot more fun when I have the best equipment for my level - makes leveling alot easier, it helps your reputation if you care enough to make sure you're well equiped, you get invites into more groups, etc... Farming might seem boring, but having good equipment adds to the fun (and you can always sell it back and recover your money - except with ammo, but ammo isnt tooo expensive...).