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Old 04-14-2004, 09:30 AM   #31
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Evilghost:"i said go ahead and call GM, but u guys r too chicken to call, cause GM not going to believe u guys(Roaddog/Lemia)"


Anyways, darick when you get back ingame..we try plan out -_-
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:58 AM   #32
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me fag? wut r u talking about road, ask ppl here, who is the real fag, don't make fool out of urself kid. u guys could have call GM, and still nothing would have happened, but too bad u 2 kids were so scared to call, XD. where is ur balls, hahaha

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dar > really sorry to hear that from you bro, those ppl r just jealous of us becuase we can hunt stuff ourselves and make good money, since they can't do shit themselve that's why.wut they did just totally childlish and stupid, hope they grow up someday, XD.
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well, personally I think that soloing NM like that is kind of cheap... amemet drops expensive skins yes, but it's usually split and ends up just about as profitable as any other method of earning gil. However, when solo, the reward goes all to one person... it just doesn't seem fair.

I remember when we saw arthros being solo'd for the first time. It took 4 hours and the process was pissing off everyone around them. We were thinking... what if 2 damask threads dropped? That's 2 mil (at the time) to 1 person in less than a fraction of a day... Same with that ninja soloing serket... What if she got serket claw? 6 mil right there for just 1 person... and if serket ring drops with it? 7 mil... just in a day's work. It just seems morally wrong. Provided the game mechanics allows it all to happen, the game mechanics also allow the NM to be taken away from BST... so in the end it's all about moral justification.

Imagine if fafnir could be solo'd. Don't tell me you wouldn't train spiders on his ass XD
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me fag? wut r u talking about road, ask ppl here, who is the real fag, don't make fool out of urself kid. u guys could have call GM, and still nothing would have happened, but too bad u 2 kids were so scared to call, XD. where is ur balls, hahaha
Nice how you admit to what you did, and it is funny how you call CoD childish for stealing Amemet when you try to fucking MPK people.

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Nice how you admit to what you did, and it is funny how you call CoD childish for stealing Amemet when you try to fucking MPK people.
answer for that question is: u deserved to be mpked, and no one will feel sorry for ur stupid ass

and sorry kid, i make 17 dollars per hr, i don't use my parent money anymore, unlike u, still asking milk from ur mom. grow up kid, idiotic is not an excuse for being young
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:22 PM   #36
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hahaha, sorry kid, i make 17 dollars per hr, i don't use my parent money anymore, unlike u, still ask milk from ur mom road. grow up kid
Apparently you're not working for a business where a high school diploma is needed.
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Apparently you're not working for a business where a high school diploma is needed.
haha, good one. let's see if u can get a part-time job which give u 17 dollars per hr while in college once u r mature enough to work. prolly won't happen in another 20 yrs or so, cause i'm talking about mentually mature, not physically.XD
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let's see if u can get a part-time job which give u 17 dollars per hr while in college
And yet you have 4 jobs 60+ and 2 jobs at lvl 75, and you hunt HNMs daily...Sounds like you're story is real. Also, giving blow jobs for only 17 dollars an hour is not that great. You should consider a new line of work.
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And yet you have 4 jobs 60+ and 2 jobs at lvl 75, and you hunt HNMs daily...Sounds like you're story is real. Also, giving blow jobs for only 17 dollars an hour is not that great. You should consider a new line of work.
if that's the kind of job u r looking forward to get, then work hard, maybe some ppl will give u good tips. XD and i feel sorry for ur parents -_-;
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i feel sorry for ur parents -_-;
I feel sorry for your parents as well, now walk up stairs and tell them that for me.
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well, personally I think that soloing NM like that is kind of cheap... amemet drops expensive skins yes, but it's usually split and ends up just about as profitable as any other method of earning gil. However, when solo, the reward goes all to one person... it just doesn't seem fair.
you're not the one spend weeks lving bst and die tons of times, you dont know where the pain is commin from and just know that we made the money by ourselves. one thing i did is not like u guys just sayin how cheap xxxx and xxx is soloin NM. instead of sittin there being jealous of ppl, i actually took the effort lv the job. solo in where places no body's at, die and no one's there/ nor anyone would help. dont make stupid comment like that.

like seymoure said, dont matter who you are, they're always a chance for HNM or NM to turn white dependin on attk.

also, plz dont talk trash on this post, take ur personal business elsewhere. if u want to talk trash, PM !!! that's what PM is for.



one thing is, GM sayin he's only gonna give me 24hr of suspension, but...now, i still cant log on. Donno wat's gonna happen, same thing like last time, hopefully there's a GM i can talk to? This is really xxxkin me over. maybe someone here is a GM can help figure out what's goin on? The GM i talked to is "Yvestra"
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now walk up stairs and tell them that for me.
lol, come to my house and tell them urself, if u have guts and balls to come, but i doubt it, XD

dar > alrite dar, i'll stop it. cause kid is kid, they don't learn, let his parents worry about his future. And i agree with dar, it's really pain in the ass to lvl bst, ppl might think it's easy, but wait till you actually lvl it urself. and i hope u can get back online soon, XD
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well, personally I think that soloing NM like that is kind of cheap... amemet drops expensive skins yes, but it's usually split and ends up just about as profitable as any other method of earning gil. However, when solo, the reward goes all to one person... it just doesn't seem fair.

Imagine if fafnir could be solo'd. Don't tell me you wouldn't train spiders on his ass XD
I don't see what's unfair or "unethical" about this...at all <_< That's how BSTs fight everything. It's not as though they're exploiting some kind of hole in the game. BST and NIN are accessible to everyone ingame; just because someone's getting more money doesn't make their tactics cheap.
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Just want to add that ghost really doesn't play as much as you think... he just siezes every opportunity he can while online (as opposed to, let's say, my sitting in my mog chatting on LS for 4 hours a day)

As for the unethicity of soloing... basically it's all about job imbalance. Some jobs can solo things that require a group of other jobs at the same level to kill. For example, a 75 RDM/NIN could solo serket with ease, but a 75 PLD + WHM + BRD would have trouble. The monsters have high rewards that are expensive because they are harder to take down and require more effort, and the rewards are great so that they can be split between all contributing members to make the task worth it... but others can reap all of the rewards to themselves easily because of job imbalance.

BST is obviously very different with a different set of rules. A BST can, provided that the tameable monsters in the vicinity are strong enough, potentially take down anything by themselves. Provided they need to switch pets, meaning the target goes white, it is the BST themselves who made up the rule that it can't be taken. As far as I know, BST have hate reset for things like amemet, so they can stop the action for awhile until things get under control (like finding another pet to tame). This would be like zoning out of an HNM fight because you're having trouble, except it's done w/ JA... it just seems unfair in my book if people are expected to let you keep it in this time frame.

For BST soloing amement, I feel that if you have to use that ability to clear hate, it counts as you blowing your shot. You can take it back as fast as you can, but if you lose it then, no whines. If they just take it in between pets and it goes white but is still aggro to you, then yes they're asses... but if you hate reset, you blew it.

Also, even though they were asses to take your monster, you still shouldn't MPK them. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
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Old 04-15-2004, 12:02 AM   #45
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There is nothing imbalanced about BST soloing things. There needs to be at least one reason for people who have lives to play the game - no other job seems to be soloable from 1 - 75. It takes a tremendous amount of effort to get that far.

And the bottom line is, if you can solo a monster, you deserve the drops. I would say the same about any player who can solo an NM, whether they are RDM, NIN, whatever.

But guys, try to keep the personal insults out of this, or some warning points are gonna start getting flung around.
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