[PhiberOpticks]

I was wondering about your guys' opinion on this. I think there should be. But I have no suggestions, at present.

[Feba]

no. Would screw over existing players far too much (this isn't a game where everyone has multiple characters than can level to cap within a couple weeks)

In addition, at this point, there's not really a place in the storyline for it. Tears of Altana and whatnot.

I wouldn't mind allowing players to get alternate Citizenships though. Have Selbina, Mhaura, and Tavnazia citizenships open up at lv30... have them be the same as their mothercountry (Bastok, Windurst, and San d'Oria. I know they don't get along much, but just go with it), as far as mission structure goes, and keep your mission order, but have it add side quests, equipment, and maybe a very minor storyline extra (like expansion missions though, not rank missions)

Then maybe offer Jeuno and Aht Urhgan later, as main countries. Jeuno rank missions could be very interesting.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Feba

no. Would screw over existing players far too much (this isn't a game where everyone has multiple characters than can level to cap within a couple weeks)

I don't get how this would screw over existing players. You either start a new character with the new race, or you don't. It's not like the situation is different if, for example, someone playing a Tarutaru suddenly decides they'd like to try an Elvaan character.

In addition, at this point, there's not really a place in the storyline for it. Tears of Altana and whatnot.

Eh ... Easily solved with a little interbreeding among the beastmen, or the five Altana derived races and the beastmen. Or...


A new race would be interesting, but I think there are bigger roadblocks.
First, I doubt SE wants to ramp up a dev and creative staff to introduce a new race. FFXI is probably in milk-cow status at this point. Expansions, it would seem, have a decent RoI, but pouring lots of money into the game for a new race probably wouldn't be worth it for them at this point.
Second, there's the purported issue of the PS2 limiting SE from being able to do much more of anything.

[Quetzalcoatl]

what about these Qiqirn things... would be funny to see ppl runing around with this kind of race

[Feba]

I don't get how this would screw over existing players.

If someone would've rather played as an Elvaan when they started, they could've made that choice, or at least made that choice before their point of no return. You can't expect players to give up their pimped out 75s in FFXI like you can in WoW.

Eh ... Easily solved with a little interbreeding among the beastmen, or the five Altana derived races and the beastmen.

...Ugh. You really don't know the story very well do you? This would screw things up very bad. Hell, it would basically make a substantial portion of COP meaningless.

[Krysta]

No I dont think there should be a new race simply because there is no need. Each race atm either specialises in one area of stats (STR, MIND and INT, DEX and AGI etc) so the only benefit they could do by adding a new race would be looks. I doubt they would make it excel more in any one of those stats over the other races because everyone would change so we would have clones runnign everywhere. I also dont think anyone would bother to start over just because they want to play as that race, ffxi isnt a game which it is possble to rush though it requires time and effort (like feba said).
Anyway would races could they add? i cant think of any that are already intergrated into the game which would work.

[PhiberOpticks]

Originally Posted by Krysta

No I dont think there should be a new race simply because there is no need. Each race atm either specialises in one area of stats (STR, MIND and INT, DEX and AGI etc) so we only benefit they could do by adding a new race would be looks. I doubt they would make it excel more in any one of those stats over the other races because everyone would change so we would have clones runnign everywhere. I also dont think anyone would bother to start over just because they want to play as that race, ffxi isnt a game which it is possble to rush though it requires time and effort (like feba said).
Anyway would races could they add? i cant think of any that are already intergrated into the game which would work.

What do you mean they would only be adding looks? There are 5 races. One of which, the Hume are balanced in stats. And every other race has a specialty in a different stat. So that would mean there would be at least one more stat for a race to be more powerful in.

I see what Feba is saying about the Tears of Altana and such. But, just to play devil's advocate, don't you think there could possibly be some plot integration with another expansion?

[Evion]

Negatively affecting long-time players aside, diversity is supposed to be a good thing. I know I was dissapointed with the lack of races when I joined. It would be absolutely sweet to have a race of fish men or lizard men running around. Would also be sweet if there were male Mithra and female Galka, but that's another discussion.

[PhiberOpticks]

Perhaps there could be a whole new aspect to the game. You could play as the Beastmen. Hell, they've already got their own place in Conquest.

[Raydeus]

I voted nah, because the whole history of Vana is about the 5 races, so except for Manthras being playable characters I don't see how they could implement the new race without screwing up all the storyline.

Although if they made Kuluu or Zilart playable races that would be nice of SE.

(They would be (Hume +10) like ).

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Feba

I wouldn't mind allowing players to get alternate Citizenships though. Have Selbina, Mhaura, and Tavnazia citizenships open up at lv30

This is like having citizenship in Texas instead of being an American. Selbina and Mhaura are already part of larger countries, Tavnazia hardly exists any more, Kahzam would be a member of the Mithran lands which we can't even go to yet. Norg and Rabao are outland squatters for all intents and purposes, not countries you can proclaim your allegiance with.

As for everyone else asking to be a Beastman race, male Mithra, female Galka, bestiality marriages and whatnot, damnit people, learn the story and find out why the world is the way it is before spouting off nonsense.

don't you think there could possibly be some plot integration with another expansion?

No. The Children of Altana hardly get along as it is, but only do so because they share a common Goddess. There are 2 other main deities, Promathia and Uggalepih. Do the Children of Altana get along with the followers of them?

[Kaickul]

Originally Posted by Feba

no. Would screw over existing players far too much (this isn't a game where everyone has multiple characters than can level to cap within a couple weeks)

Pretty much sums it up.

[Lilani]

Absolutely not.

1. It would mess with the story line. So far we have the 5 tears of Altana thing going, and I like that. What next? Are we going to pull a WoW and have our new race come from a meteor that didn't somehow destroy the planet?

2. Speaking of WoW, it would make us too much like them. I remember when I tried a WoW trial, I wanted to try blood elf, but I couldn't because it was a trial. I couldn't try the game in the manner I wanted, and I hated it.

3. Situations like this will, as Feba said, screw over existing players. Many might find this new race more appealing than their current one. They'll feel jealous, and have to start everything over to play the way they want.

4. If the race comes in the new expansion pack like the way WoW did it, the players who don't want the pack or who simply can't find/afford it are screwed as well.

So, no aliens. Prz.

I wouldn't mind optimizing the current character creations and adding in more options for body, figure, faces, hair, etc. but SE would definately have to find a way to let existing players change their characters too. If they only did it for freshly created characters, there would be too much of an uproar.

[Hantz]

Originally Posted by Mhurron

This is like having citizenship in Texas instead of being an American.

Wait, that's not how it is? I'd say I'm a Texan first, and an American second. I think it has to do with the whole "right to secede" Texas is supposedly entitled to (put most ludicrously here for unintentional comic effect).

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Feba

You can't expect players to give up their pimped out 75s in FFXI like you can in WoW.

That's a silly argument. No one would be forced to give up their pimped out 75's, period.

So a new race would screw people over because in order to try it, they'd have to start over? This is true even with the original five races.

Originally Posted by Feba

...Ugh. You really don't know the story very well do you? This would screw things up very bad. Hell, it would basically make a substantial portion of COP meaningless.

Ugh, indeed.
Yes I know the story. I just don't consider set in stone. It's creative work. Application of good creativity could make it fit.