Go Back   Dreams in Vanadiel - Final Fantasy XI Forum > FFXI Game Related > Race & Job Type Q & A

Post New Thread Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-23-2006, 03:24 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
dfirestein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 8
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
   
Race important?

I apologize for asking what is probably a very stupid question, but I was wondering...just how important is race in FFXI? How much more powerful is a Tarutaru Black Mage than an Elvaan Black Mage? Or a Hume Black Mage than a Elvaan Black Mage? For another stupid question, are Blue Mages like Red Mages in that they melee along with casting spells, or are they designed more for standing back and casting spells like Black/White Mages?
dfirestein is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-23-2006, 03:30 PM   #2
FFXI Mentor
Super Moderator
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
Spazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 964
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 4
Thanked 14x in 9 Posts
My Mood:
Send a message via AIM to Spazz Send a message via MSN to Spazz Send a message via Yahoo to Spazz
Re: Race important?

Race doesnt always play a HUGE part in the game. Yes it can have its advantages... but there really isnt that big of a difference because of all the gear you could use to make up for whatever stats you were lacking.

BLUs are melee/damage dealers. They melee with their sword aswell as cast spells. RDMs, BLMs, and WHMs usually stand in the back because thier melee attributes are not always up to par with other melee. A good RDM can melee and deal decent damage of course... but most of the time they are too busy casting spells to really have a chance to pull out their swords.
__________________
Spazz is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-23-2006, 05:03 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Yuanlung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 418
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2x in 2 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

With some jobs, race can make a fairly visible difference. Tarutaru BLM, for example, will have a higher base damage and bigger MP bar than that of other races. At lv 75, you are looking at a ~250MP and ~15INT difference between a Tarutaru and an Elvaan BLM. (roughly, can't recall the exact number at the moment) Another example would be MNK, where a taru's low str (over 10 points lower at 75), vit, and HP will make min/maxers cry.


Watch out though, when people try to tell you "you can fix so-and-so stats with gears". While you maybe able to boost a certain stat you lack via some uber items, but guess what? In many cases, so can other races who have better stats to start with. There are some racial-specific gears that aim to bridge the difference, but they are few and quite limited.



Then there are jobs where all races perform more or less the same, such as BRD and COR, or each race gets different perks, such as PLD and RDM.


I'd say that race is important if you care about min/maxing. It gives your some nice-to-have perks, but nothing so significant that it cripples you completely.





As for BLU and RDM.. BLU is front line melee and RDM is back line support. RDM *can* choose to melee, and good RDM in certain party make up can actually make the hits count (although marginally benificial), most of the time, you will be seeing bad RDM who melee even in cases where it hurt the party....
__________________
Junior Member?

Join Date: 01-27-2004 -_-
Yuanlung is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
The following user says "Thank You" to Yuanlung for above post:
spazmo (05-31-2007)
Old 08-23-2006, 05:03 PM   #4
Spank their bottoms!
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
Omecle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 610
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 56
Thanked 19x in 12 Posts
Send a message via MSN to Omecle
   
Re: Race important?

Play whatever race you like best. ;o
__________________
Omecle is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-23-2006, 05:30 PM   #5
Mog
King of the Oompa Loompas
Mythril Star
 
Mog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,752
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 180x in 140 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

Any race can play any job.
__________________
~~~BLM SAM RNG NIN PLD~~~
Mog is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-23-2006, 05:39 PM   #6
Junior Member
 
Praetorian13's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 44
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 5
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

It's your game and character play what you want, just pay attention to racial weaknesses and compensate for them. Just remember to have fun with what you do
Praetorian13 is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-23-2006, 07:39 PM   #7
anti-spam
Super Moderator
Steelknight Emblem
 
neighbortaru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,532
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 22
Thanked 63x in 58 Posts
My Mood:
Re: Race important?

...and if you don't believe the people above, you can peruse the bajillion other topics about the same thing all across the race and job forums (via search feature)
__________________
neighbortaru is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 08:07 AM   #8
Junior Member
 
Khevn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Cali
Posts: 163
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Khevn
   
Re: Race important?

see that button up at the top right that by log out called search? bet you'll find like this topic discussed far too many times than ever necessary, they should just make an indepth faq about Race selection and job selection and sticky it to the front of the whole forum, make it so if you've never been to the forum before, you have to read it.
__________________
"how broken everything about ToAU is."
"Do you have Haruhi in your daily anime diet?"
"ok... I've quit 5 times... and failed each time miserably... they need a patch for FFXI like those nicotine ones...."
"Finally Quit this game"
Khevn is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 08:38 AM   #9
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 370
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
   
Re: Race important?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dfirestein
I apologize for asking what is probably a very stupid question, but I was wondering...just how important is race in FFXI? How much more powerful is a Tarutaru Black Mage than an Elvaan Black Mage? Or a Hume Black Mage than a Elvaan Black Mage? For another stupid question, are Blue Mages like Red Mages in that they melee along with casting spells, or are they designed more for standing back and casting spells like Black/White Mages?
The only race you really got to worry about is Galka. People don't mind a taru tanking, an Elvaan WHM, or a Hume-whatever, but people do tend to mind a Galkan mage to any degree. (But hey, Galkans can be good mages nonetheless with the right gear and the right player of course.)
Draco Dagon is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 08:59 AM   #10
Mog
King of the Oompa Loompas
Mythril Star
 
Mog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,752
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 180x in 140 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draco Dagon
The only race you really got to worry about is Galka. People don't mind a taru tanking, an Elvaan WHM, or a Hume-whatever, but people do tend to mind a Galkan mage to any degree. (But hey, Galkans can be good mages nonetheless with the right gear and the right player of course.)
Unlike what you said, people pay attention to mithran drks, taru plds, etc.

Overall, don't pay attention to race. If you play your job well and buy the right gear, race is not a deciding factor in how well you will perform in a party situation. Period. Moreover, I would love to see Taru mnks outdamaging Elvish monks, which I'm sure is possible.
__________________
~~~BLM SAM RNG NIN PLD~~~
Mog is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 09:22 AM   #11
Rai
Junior Member
 
Rai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Agawam, MA
Posts: 384
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 1
Thanked 9x in 6 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

I leveled with Galka BLM when I was in the 60s, he was great, he managed his MP quite well and a Galka has more INT than an Elvaan so his spells hit hard.

IF you love Taru and want to be a BLM go for it, if you hate Taru and want to play BLM then be Hume or whatever race you really want to.

A lot of people change once they play the game. You may want to be a BLM now but in 30-40 levels you might want to play RDM, BLU or even DRG. The great thing about FFXI is you love your character and play any job you want in that character, WoW or Guild Wars you have to make new character to play other jobs.

Not with FFXI one character plays all the jobs, and you know you will like things about any job you try. You'll also love things about any race you try.

I have a Taru mule and just running around to the AH I feel different than on my Elvaan main character.
__________________
Sergeant Major
75PLD | 75NIN | 50RNG | 40BST | 37WAR | 37RDM | 35THF | 26SAM | 22MNK |
22DRG | 22DRK | 22WHM | 20BLM | 11COR | 13BRD | 10BLU | 08PUP | 01SMN |
Carbuncle | Diabolos | Fenrir | Garuda | Ifrit | Leviathan | Ramuh | Shiva | Titan
Rai is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 10:02 AM   #12
Junior Member
 
Hearshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 147
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

while race doesn't matter, having a beard gives you a definate advantage at pretty much everything.
__________________
Hearshot is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 10:03 AM   #13
Mog
King of the Oompa Loompas
Mythril Star
 
Mog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,752
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 180x in 140 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hearshot
while race doesn't matter, having a beard gives you a definate advantage at pretty much everything.
{True Strike}

I wouldn't want to f*ck with you. That beard is intimidating.
__________________
~~~BLM SAM RNG NIN PLD~~~
Mog is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 10:57 AM   #14
Taru Wannabe
 
Gwynn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oklahoma, USA
Posts: 275
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 12
Thanked 4x in 4 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Gwynn
   
Re: Race important?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hearshot
while race doesn't matter, having a beard gives you a definate advantage at pretty much everything.
Thats the reason Tarutaru don't have beards... if the Taru were able to grow facial hair, Vana'diel as we know it would be doomed!
__________________
RDM 75 - SMN 72 - WHM 37 - BLM 37 - DRK 37 -
Bastok Rank 10 Completed
Rise of the Zilart 16 "The Celestial Nexus"
Chains of Promathia 8 - 1 "Garden of Antiquity"
Treasures of Aht Urghan 13 "Lost Kingdom"
Gwynn is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 08-24-2006, 11:00 AM   #15
Junior Member
 
Hearshot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 147
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 0
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts
   
Re: Race important?

would be swarming with papa-smurfs. and we just can't handle that sort of community of short-stature, alpha-males.
__________________
Hearshot is offline   Reply With Quote Button by Aksannyi :)
Post New Thread Reply

Tags
important, race

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:23 PM.
Site Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC2
©2001-2009 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Title Design by Yoshitaka Amano.
FINAL FANTASY and VANA'DIEL are registered trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd. SQUARE ENIX, PLAYONLINE and the PlayOnline logo are trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Comments and posts are property of their authors. All the rest, including video, articles, compiled game data, and sections, unless otherwise noted, are
©2002-2009 FFXIOnline.com: Dreams in Vana'diel. All rights reserved.

no new posts
Page generated in 0.60155 seconds with 26 queries