12-19-2004, 01:10 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 136 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,287 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,287 Donate | Mnk/nin ok i know just about everyone will say this is a crappy sub for a mnk, cause it has bad statsnor whatever. I'm not looking for stats i'm asking if you think this would be a FUN class mix to play. i mean think about it a mnk dealing awsome damage and suddenly castin ninjitsu magic, i thought it would look cool , be fun and challenging. just wanted to know how fun you think this would be.
P.S. some may say i'm waisting the duel wielding ability of a nin, I couldnt care less about deul wielding i just want it to be fun and challenging. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-19-2004, 01:26 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 864 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,242 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,242 Donate | you won't be doing "awesome damage" with nin sub.
ninjitsu when subbed is near useless.
if your idea of "fun and challenging" is sitting in jeuno for hours because of your sub.... you'll have a lot of that. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-19-2004, 03:45 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 497 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 937 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 937 Donate | actually ninja is a great subjob for monk, its just highly situational.
one of my ls ninjas tanks king ranps parties, we've actually done
mnk/nin mnk/nin mnk/thf mnk/thf whm/blm brd/whm
, he also SJ's nin for BC fights etc where its inevitable he'll turn hate, its also really useful for stuff like the AA fights.
not great for exp though.  55% Skill
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Summoner - 75 - Completed My Livejournal | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-19-2004, 04:52 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 323 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 92 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 92 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by poweryoga ninjitsu when subbed is near useless. | its nothing great when mained either...
in the end...monk/nin will only have ninjitsu...wich isnt even that fun...i mean...you aready got two weapons...
"WOW THIS IS SO FUN!!! MY NINJITSU CANT STICK AND IM DOING SHIT DAMAGE!" | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-20-2004, 05:28 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 344 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,589 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,589 Donate | MNK/NIN is only an endgame combo for Dynamis runs and some HNM fights. You get no benefit at all for subbing NIN at any other time.
You won't be landing any of the Ninjitsu on IT mobs with only half of the Ninjitsu skill of a NIN main. Not only that, but you have no reason to use anything else but Utsusemi with the NIN sub, and its simply to make it so you can stay alive longer without help from mages (especially important in Dynamis if you a random melee) Vargas 75 MNK - Ragnarok (Retired) Varg MNK - Ragnarok (Remade) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-25-2004, 10:54 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 83 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 299 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 299 Donate | actually a friend of mine has use this for a BCNM 40 in feiyin against the skeleton. I forgot the BCNM name but it's basically a skeleton mob that raises itself 4 times, 3 as drk, 2 as blm.
The pt set up was whm/blm, pld/war, and mnk/nin
This works out a lot better than mnk/war since mnk almost always pull hate from the pld from time to time... and having the images up definately help me to conserve a lot more mp since it's such a long long battle =D
We were only able to complete this bcnm with mnk/nin. Using mnk/war cos too much hate, and thus cost me too much mana to heal him.  Brd 67/ Whm 42 / Blm 26
Clothcraft 72.0 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-26-2004, 09:58 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 350 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,578 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,578 Donate | Undying Promise, and yes MNK/WAR is just too much hate for anyone, war/nin nin/war both lost hate to my mnk without beserk or focus up at all. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-31-2004, 09:55 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 141 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 8,888 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,888 Donate | mnk/nin is a great soloer. . . which you're gonna be doing alot of if /nin is the only subjob you have available.  75mnk/37whm/37war/37nin/21thf/17blm/10sam/10brd/4drg/4bst/3drk/1everythingelse
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Rank 10 San d'Orian. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-11-2005, 10:34 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 43 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 299 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 299 Donate | MNK/NIN is situational, yes.
I've "tanked" Serket many times as MNK/NIN, tanked Simurgh, Roc, etc etc. It's honestly not that hard, another MNK/NIN in my LS has tanked Bune & Tzee Xicu. It's doable. It's not a crap sub. The whole point of NIN sub isn't to use the elemental or enfeebling ninjutsu it's to use utsusemi: ichi and utsusemi: ni, let's not beat around the bush.
The other thing I'd like to point out is that as an Elvaan MNK75/WAR37 I have 75 base STR. As MNK75/THF37 I have 71 base STR. And as MNK75/NIN37 I have 73 base STR. So it's not exactly like you're doing shit damage, you're just losing berserk (marginally increases ws damage) and double attack.  =======================
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LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/thetalus | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-22-2005, 08:53 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 83 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 299 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 299 Donate | oh and mnk/nin is not a bad combo for ballista too  unless u have sam up with meditate ^^~  Brd 67/ Whm 42 / Blm 26
Clothcraft 72.0 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-23-2005, 02:04 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Undeniably Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where there is pumpkin pies and high fives! Posts: 1,744 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12x in 2 Posts Gil: 27,400 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 27,400 Donate | DarkSEED's leader, Renza, can solo a lot of weaker HNMs with MNK/NIN and tanks just about anything ;P. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-04-2005, 09:09 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 504 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,773 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,773 Donate | A lot of you are focusing on non-leveling situations, where indeed, MNK/NIN can be kinda useful.
But I don't think that's what the original poster is asking.  Pounce (RETIRED) Mithra Bastok R.7 Titan server
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Future NIN -_- | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-09-2005, 04:59 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 97 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 164 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 164 Donate | Talus... lets not forget ur thf and /thf buddies who help keep the hate on you........ but ya.... mnk/nin isnt really a bad combo in certain situation | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:43 PM. | | |