11-16-2004, 03:20 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 532 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,007 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,007 Donate | MATCHING YOUR JOB AND RACE (for the early levels...) I was just thinking, alot of friends want me to switch from my mithran BLM back to my Mithran ranger because mithra were made to be rangers, but even though i make a fair amount of gil in the game, i hate wasting it so fast and not seeing the level gain i see with blm (witch isnt a cheap job by any means)
The point of this thread was to figure out witch jobs do you think go best witch witch race.
BASIC JOBS:
Warrior- Mithra- best dex and agi for more parrys, shield blocks, critical hits, and normal hits. decent hp and lower vit doesnt hurt em too much.
Monk- Mithra- best dex and agi for most accuracy, decent strength stat.
Wht mage- Mithra decent max MP, ok mind, but great agi for dodging attacks when you cure too much
BLM- mithra-decent MP and INT, and that great dex for farming with daggers (cyclone anyone) good agi for when your nuke hits a lil too hard
Thf- Mithra-best dex in the game, thfs need dex, nuff said
red mage-mithra-decent mp, dex for when you meelee, agi for when you solo, and enough int and mnd to do well.
ADVANCE JOBS:
Bard-Mithra-lower chr but who cares songs are songs, that great dex and agi are allt hat matters
beast mater-mithra-best dex for when your pet needs a lil help attacking, great agi for if your pet turns on you.
summoner-mithra- we may not have the best mp, but who wants to be a lil midget walking around with huge avys, u need a mithra so your avatars will respect you.
dark knight- mithra- best dex for landing those long delay hits, more MP then the onther races who accell in the dex department as well.
paladin-mithra-ok hp and vit, solid mp, great all the way around with nice agi for parrys and blocks
ranger-mithra-agi=ranged accuracy=enuff said
ninja-mithra-best agi needed for evasion, enuff said
samurai-mithra- samurai have the worst natural agi, so they need to be mithras to make up for that
dragoon- elvaan- mithra only acell at good jobs, not gimped jobs, elvaan do well with the gimped jobs.
lol forget the flames gimmie a break im bored to death at work today  Why be like someone famous when you can be like me. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-16-2004, 08:19 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 212 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 490 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 490 Donate | ........If your spelling sucked slightly less, I might think you wrote the strategy guide witch != which
Your gross oversimplification and, in some cases flat out misguidance, sadden me as a reader.
Yes, Mithras have the best AGI and DEX--sorry, they aren't good at everything because of that. They have the lowest (or tied for lowest) CHR, VIT and MND. They make >passable< PLDs, BRDs, etc...but, given proper gear and skill, any race can be passable at any job.
Warrior -- I agree about the AGI and DEX, however, Warrior they have the lowest VIT and second lowest STR--equally (in some situations more) important as AGI and DEX.
Monk -- DEX has relatively (not none, but relatively) little impact on accuracy, it has far more impact on Crit rate. MNK is a STR and MND job more than anything else, Mithras suck at those more than any race other than Taru. No, mithras do not have decent STR.
WHM -- Decent MP, Ok. Ok MND? Wrong...Not that it matters much, WHM is mostly an MP job, not a stats one. And WHM Eva is so low, that race agility attributes wont save you from enough attacks to be worthwhile.
BLM -- BLM and the Taru were designed for each other, Mithras (and humes) are a distant but plausable second.
THF -- Thinking like that leads to gimp gear meaning the Elvaan will be more useful.
RDM -- Ehh...maybe, RDM is doable by anything, but you are giving DEX and AGI too much credit.
BRD -- Not all songs are songs. BRDs wouldnt go out of their way for >+70 CHR late/end game if CHR didn't matter. It does...deal with it. DEX and AGI mean just about nothing to a BRD.
BST -- And shit CHR to ensure it does turn on you!~
SMN -- ..............
DRK -- Again, DEX has minimal affect on accuracy, a far more notable affect on crits. But relying on criticals to up damage is stupid, get more STR and be Elvaan.
PLD -- Worst VIT. Cant even use the taru claim of "I have teh 1337 MPs to hold teh hates."
RNG -- Yea, so Mithras are good RNGs--there is enough AGI and RAcc gear that the little AGI diff is virtually insignificant compared to what they get added.
NIN -- Ninja isnt simply evade everything. Sorry.
SAM -- But AGI doesnt do a damn thing for SAMs, why compensate (unless you sub RNG, but...well..acc gear, kthx)?
DRG -- Might have been funny if the rest of the post was well constructed   San D'orian Taru ~ All the courage of Sandy, all the cute, fluffy qualities of a taru. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-16-2004, 09:28 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 234 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 221 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 221 Donate | Mithra easily make good thieves, rangers, and red mages. The only reason they make good red mages is because they look sexy in AF and all they have to do is whore Refresh and Convert.
They can do other jobs with passable grades, but why settle for second best? Come on. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-17-2004, 09:02 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 532 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,007 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,007 Donate | umm srry it was a joke
i typed all that in like 2 mins of course there will be typos...lol  Why be like someone famous when you can be like me. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-19-2004, 08:21 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 6 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 149 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 149 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Lynsy ........If your spelling sucked slightly less, I might think you wrote the strategy guide  witch != which
Your gross oversimplification and, in some cases flat out misguidance, sadden me as a reader.
Yes, Mithras have the best AGI and DEX--sorry, they aren't good at everything because of that. They have the lowest (or tied for lowest) CHR, VIT and MND. They make >passable< PLDs, BRDs, etc...but, given proper gear and skill, any race can be passable at any job. | Lynsy's sense of humor, saddens me as a reader. Its people like him that pisses me off. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-19-2004, 08:48 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Pai Pai Lackey Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,242 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 29x in 24 Posts Gil: 40,315 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 40,315 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Seoul Lynsy's sense of humor, saddens me as a reader. Its people like him that pisses me off. | Thing is what the thread starter posted is very much like what many with little knowledge of the game will state. So it really holds little humor value. It's as terrible as my step fathers who he pissed off everyone he ever came across with that humor. The only indication of the post being a joke is the very last sentance and even it is quite vaigue in indicating that.
Even though knowing it's a joke it does not help this thread at all. You make a statement like this and some one or a group of people will take it as fact, then you are just breeding a new wave of people with even more ignorance to the game. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-19-2004, 12:49 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 300 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,728 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,728 Donate | I for one did not see this as a joke... I thought it was someone actualy saying what they thought was "fact" in the game. I have good knowledge of the game, but does not mean the poster does. I thought the poster was seriously trying to make a statement...
so... Knock knock...
whos there?
A Mithra!
Oh, ok... (opens door) (finds noone there)
Thats weird... (turns around and finds everything he owns to be stolen!!!)
Now that is someone that is good at thier job!!
PS:
Yes, the part starting with "knock knock" was a joke... in case someone misses that... :spin:  Modnar
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55 Red Mage; 32 Black Mage; 27 White Mage. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-19-2004, 01:09 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Pai Pai Lackey Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,242 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 29x in 24 Posts Gil: 40,315 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 40,315 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by modnar Knock knock...
whos there?
A Mithra!
Oh, ok... (opens door) (finds noone there)
Thats weird... (turns around and finds everything he owns to be stolen!!!)
Now that is someone that is good at thier job!! | Heh, that got a grin from me. Now that is better of a joke. >.>  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-19-2004, 03:09 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Epic Fail Guy Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,194 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,162 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,162 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Thegod umm srry it was a joke
i typed all that in like 2 mins of course there will be typos...lol | you should have stated in the first few words that it was a joke, cause as it is it looks like your spilling out facts, which arn't facts...and...yeah >.>  Most memorable WoW vent convos on Burning Legion:
"Dude...I just wrote a sonnet, about taking a dump." - Kronos (2006)
"Guys, I just set my oven on fire by trying to cook ramen in it, and broke the fire alarm with a frying pan. I think I'm in trouble." - Brawny (2006)
"But Hisdon, why wouldn't you want The Unblockable Shield - wait a minute..." - Sasukekun (2005) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-15-2004, 10:06 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 62 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 771 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 771 Donate | LIES! LIES I SAY!
>.>
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BASIC JOBS
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WAR = TaruTaru
THF = TaruTaru
MNK = TaruTaru
RDM = TaruTaru
BLM = TaruTaru
WHM = TaruTaru
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ADVANCED JOBS
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PLD = TaruTaru
DRK = TaruTaru
BST = TaruTaru
RNG = TaruTaru
SAM = TaruTaru
BRD = TaruTaru
NIN = TaruTaru
DRG = TaruTaru
SMN = TaruTaru
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....Pfft, Don't you know anything?  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-15-2004, 01:21 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Resident Forum Whore Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,313 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12x in 9 Posts Gil: 3,025 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,025 Donate | Everyone knows that Galka make the best mages, PERIOD!
Geez are you all noobs??  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-16-2004, 04:24 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 212 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 490 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 490 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Seoul Lynsy's sense of humor, saddens me as a reader. Its people like him that pisses me off. | I was not, am not, and likely never will be male. So...No him here to piss you off
I, like several others, didn't see this as a joke but as a very...misguided player stating their opinion on the pwnageness of the Mithra. To me, it sounded almost exactly like the Brady Games strat guide, only with far worse spelling, grammar and general knowledge of very basic vocabulary in which mithra was good at every job because their DEX landed hits and their AGI evaded them, when, in reality, its not quite that simple.
Perhaps I was a tad caustic in my original reply, but I was, and remain, quite unimpressed with the sheer volume of horribly naive posts stated as pure fact. No, Im sorry, fanboydom doesn't carry you far in the harsh reality of the fact that everything has its pro's and con's.
Now, if the post had been entitled something about "Mithran performance in various jobs" I might have been a tad more accepting...but if, and only if, it noted the con's as well as the pro's. There are jobs that Mithra's excell at (RNG and THF) jobs that they are least suited for (PLD and BRD) and everything in between. Yes, there are pro's for playing a mithra of any job, and con's as well.
Jokes are well and good, but behind every joke is a kernal of truth--the truth in this one was a fundamentally misguided notion that Mithras excell at everything.  San D'orian Taru ~ All the courage of Sandy, all the cute, fluffy qualities of a taru. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2004, 09:54 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 112 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 141 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 141 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Laehn MIthra Powurrr!
>^_^< | [Word] [Up] sista -0.^
I love mithra as a theif cause I hardly ever get hit. *has Zelda hover boots* "If silence is golden, then maybe more people should shut up and get rich 0o" 
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/G-CODE/My_pic_21.jpg | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2004, 10:24 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 99 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 519 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 519 Donate | Hehe Fake Flame thingy..stupid Xodia lol i took it as a joke..just in a different way...not to take the wrong way...but really Dex and agi isnt everything...and the "who cares if we dont ahve much Mp"..ya..that kinda matters on BLM, WHM, and SMN. and i dont think SAM should need AGI too much. and DRG Is Really kool!...and um...No TaLKiNG aBouT TaRuTaRu'S LiKe THaT! lol
(eh i thought it was funny...i like to be the bad guy lol..hehehe... im not really mad about it..just stating my opinions in a mean way to mess around... =P..) Not a FLaMe... <- Bored lol...
X over and out... *collapses* :dead:  Goals-
75RDM (51) 35DRG (9)
40BLM (26) 37NIN+ (14)
42WHM (16) 18WAR (9)
60RNG+(12) 45THF+ (16)
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