01-20-2008, 10:30 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,447 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 74 Thanked 249x in 146 Posts Gil: 11,769 Bank: 4,671 Total Gil: 16,440 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? You really won't find much sympathy when it comes to G2, at least not from those of us who have been playing this game for a long time now. See, SE "adjusted" the difficulty of those 3 G2 NMs so that a party of players 50 to 55 now stand a chance at defeating them. Before this update, you needed an entire alliance of players at that level. Just having 2 or 3 level 75s wasn't sufficient to defeat them. Lyonheart
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Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-21-2008, 12:03 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Roll Us a Giant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the universe Posts: 745 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 195 Thanked 142x in 98 Posts Gil: 10,046 Bank: 3,611 Total Gil: 13,658 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? Originally Posted by DR2D2 | | I probably wouldn't get upset except for the fact that it is a quest which is IMPOSSIBLE TO SOLO. Thanks to SE, I am basically stuck at lvl 50 | Did you miss the part where FFXI isn't one of those "Do-it-yourself" MMOs that require you to almost never play with other people? It's not terribly difficult to get a few high level folk to come hold your hand through it. Like the others have pointed out, it used to be much more difficult than it is now. The drop rates are kinda nasty, but honestly, G1 doesn't take much more time than 1 normal exp party would (unless you bring 2+ people that need G1 as well). You can miss 1 or 2 nights of partying; not that bad. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-21-2008, 12:17 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,894 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 427x in 278 Posts Gil: 1,415 Bank: 27,862 Total Gil: 29,278 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? Number of people required for G1:
- 4 for Garlaige citadel (just to open Banishing gates to get to Explosures). Aside from that, virtually any level 75 player can get you the bomb coal by themselves.
- 1 person for Exorays and their exoray mold. These things are laughable at level 75.
- 1 person, maybe two if you have the wrong jobs, for ancient papyrus from Liches, either in Eldieme Necropolis or in Toraimarai Canal.
G2 isn't hard either. I solo'd all three G2 NMs for someone about a week ago. It took forever on RDM due to their high HP, but wasn't even vaguely difficult.
G3 can be done with 1 level 75 as long as you have one person who has a crimson orb, and someone at level 75 who can take out the guards next to the lever door in Oztroja.
As mentioned by others, this is much, much easier than it used to be.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Icemage for above post: | | | 01-21-2008, 01:05 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Play toy Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, England Posts: 926 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 80 Thanked 86x in 41 Posts Gil: 5,846 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,846 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? God, I remember doing G2 with an alliance years ago. Still gives me the sweats remembering all those idiots running around aggroing eyes and everything else that moved then people screaming for invis every second step we took towards the NMs. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-21-2008, 02:41 PM | #20 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,615 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 39 Thanked 244x in 123 Posts Gil: 24,486 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,486 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? Originally Posted by StarvingArtist | The original level cap was 50 when the game first came out by the way.
Nothing to say about the subjob quest (which could have been done with a normal level party) | In Valkurm, maybe. In Bubu it could be done by a normal level alliance. Not without some deaths, but it got the job done. | Quote: | | or the extra job quests (which also could have been done with a party at that level)? | Some are soloable, even; bard, ranger, dark knight come to mind. Actually, I think most are soloable, except for RoZ jobs. | Quote: | | Genkai 1 items can be obtained with a lv48-50 party (I got 2/3 while leveling normally, and the third with friends). Genkai 2 will need more, but I'm not sure how much it's been toned down. (I went with a 36 person double alliance, actually really fun). Genkai 3, 4, and 5 are soloable. | I did Genkai 2 with one alliance, back in the day. It really didn't take more than that even before adjustment.
Nowadays, though, it's easier to find a couple of 75s to help than an alliance of high 50s.
How many people actually solo genkai 3? (Actually, I'm not sure that one *is* soloable. Doesn't it take two people to operate the switches at the top of Castle Oztroja? Unless you just happen to find a coffer key party hanging out there and opening the door for you, that is.)  Defeated: Maat, Divine Might, Fenrir, Kirin, Cactrot Rapido, Xolotl, Diabolos, Kurrea, Dynamis Lord, Promathia, Proto-Ultima, Proto-Omega, 4 Jailers, Bahamut (SoF)
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Windurst Rank 10, ZMs Complete, PMs Complete, AUMs Complete, First Lieutenant, Iron Emblem of Service | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-21-2008, 03:19 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Starving Mod Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,534 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 158x in 93 Posts Gil: 3,075 Bank: 41,621 Total Gil: 44,696 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? Genkai 3 is much more solable now than when it first was introduced. Granted, when it first came out there were so many people who needed it, alliances formed very easily on a daily basis ("hallways of death").
Beaudeaux/Qulun Dome is soloable if you can sneak yourself. The original location of the ??? used to be by the spot where Za'Dha Adamantking spawns. Davoi/Monastic needs a quest done to get by the Wall of Banishing, but the ability to invis yourself makes it solable also. The original ??? used to be under where Hexspinner/Overlord spawns. Oztroja is a little more tricky, but I've been able to open the door switch > invis > get past the door on my own. The ??? used to be at the very top where the second Yagudo High Priest is. Estya@Ramuh 猫魔法少女 Tales of Tails LiveJournal
白75 黒40 赤36 戦30 シ30 モ30 | ナ37 暗25 狩22 獣3 吟1 | 忍30 侍30 召21 竜7 | 青1 コ1 か1 | 踊28 学13 WIN Rank 10 | BAS Rank 10 | SAN Rank 10 | RoZ: complete | CoP: complete | ToAU: SP/M29 | WoG: 03 (WIN) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-21-2008, 03:46 PM | #22 (permalink) | | ~ Mama Gamer ~ Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,041 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 387 Thanked 324x in 219 Posts Gil: 5,091 Bank: 36,094 Total Gil: 41,185 Donate | Re: why am I forced to do this quest? I soloed G3 ... it worked out pretty well because the RMT were there in Castle Oztroja to open the gate for me. Otherwise, I wouldn't have been able to.
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