06-17-2007, 09:34 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 16 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 638 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 638 Donate | Diabolos Prime I've set up a party to do a Diabolos Prime run. The pt consists of
Me, 72 smn
3 blms 75
75 Pld
75 Rdm/drk
I know the basics of a manaburn (I feel really dumb for asking) The blms nuke together, the pld has invinsible on and provokes, and the rdm chainspell casts stun.
But when exactly does this all happen? Clearly not at the start of the fight right? Can someone help me with what exactly when to do this all? >_> I'm assuming when he's like half hp or a quarter down? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-17-2007, 10:38 PM | #2 (permalink) | | K Seal Bandit! FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Misawa AB, Japan Posts: 861 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 202 Thanked 140x in 92 Posts Gil: 8,477 Bank: 34,990 Total Gil: 43,467 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime From my understanding, the Paladin actually drops the party before he engages, to attempt to spare the mages from Draw In, but I have my doubts that that works, unless someone can confirm that strategy. While the Paladin has Diabolos' attention through the use of Provoke/Invincible, the mages unload with everything they got (kitchen sink included). Hopefully Diabolos dies before Invincible is up; that's the general goal, at least. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-17-2007, 11:35 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53 Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 2,867 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,867 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime Best way is mages time a large nuke from the top - getting the first shot in for free - if you can take a chunk off his hp for free, it is much better. Get drawn in, pld vokes, probably invicibles to try and hold hate, rdm/drk CS stuns, blm go nuts, try to get as much damage done in the time while the rdm is stunning. At least, that is how I did it.... Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 10:37 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,191 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 624 Thanked 291x in 196 Posts Gil: 63,600 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 63,600 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime Step by Step Path to Victory
- After everyone is buffed/ready, Paladin drops from the party and goes down to
engage Diabolos. This way, when Diabolos goes to draw-in the party, only the
PLD will be down there with him. Re-invite him ASAP after the draw-in.
- Now that everyone else is safe from being drawn in, 2-hour and let his ass have it.
Non-stop Thundaga/Thunder 3 from the BLM's, and Chainspell Stun from the RDM to
prevent Nightmare or any other misshaps. Not sure what you should do as SMN,
but by your level I believe the 70 BP's actually out damage Astral Flow right? You
should be relatively safe since the PLD will have hit invincible and is basically
super-tanking Diabolos while you guys lay the smack down. It should be even
easier for this tactic to work now thanks to the Sentinel and Rampart changes.
That's it in a nutshell. It's a freaking cheap tactic IMO, but it works. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 11:00 AM | #5 (permalink) | | FEBA LEARNED ME CAPS LOCK Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 1,353 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 150 Thanked 335x in 202 Posts Gil: 13,977 Bank: 33,621 Total Gil: 47,599 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime Just a note from my experience:
Diabolos gradually builds a Stun resistance the more it is used. As RDM/DRK(w/ 1 Dark Magic Merit, 1 Thunder Acc merit, +5 Magic Acc, Dark Torque, and Abyssal Earring at the time) when I went for the CS Stun, after about 5 of them he started resisting it altogether. The RDM can use CS to have no recast timer, but Stun spam will build the resistance quickly. Luckily I realized it was resisting and was able to finish him off with some chain-nukes
Diabolos Prime was an absolute bish for me, took 9 tries to beat. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Callisto for above post: | | | 06-18-2007, 11:23 AM | #6 (permalink) | | RABBITGAME Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,862 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 83 Thanked 209x in 161 Posts Gil: 19,973 Bank: 6,221 Total Gil: 26,194 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime Beat it on our first try: Pld, Drg, Brd, Blm, Blm, Whm | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-18-2007, 11:33 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 551 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 256 Thanked 53x in 44 Posts Gil: 19,383 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 19,383 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime Originally Posted by Callisto | Just a note from my experience:
Diabolos gradually builds a Stun resistance the more it is used. As RDM/DRK(w/ 1 Dark Magic Merit, 1 Thunder Acc merit, +5 Magic Acc, Dark Torque, and Abyssal Earring at the time) when I went for the CS Stun, after about 5 of them he started resisting it altogether. The RDM can use CS to have no recast timer, but Stun spam will build the resistance quickly. Luckily I realized it was resisting and was able to finish him off with some chain-nukes
Diabolos Prime was an absolute bish for me, took 9 tries to beat. | Dude you an I gotta go take down this sally sometime.. I need Diaboros before I can even think about taking SMN to 75. Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM70 SMN39 - TheAfterLife LS | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2007, 10:01 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Winston,GA Posts: 638 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 42 Thanked 22x in 20 Posts Gil: 4,134 Bank: 9,472 Total Gil: 13,606 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime I read on Wiki that the Draw in trick no longer works(boy a month old post...I'd start a new one but...)
Anyway does anyone have some alternate killing strats?
1. I know you need a stunner. The best time to stun is right when he tries to use Nightmare(must not get hit by it!).
2. I have weird groups(well in mind)...my only 75 is THF and I totally refuse to cheese it...even if I only help alittle....
My Summoner is lvl 50 and I want this guy now! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-03-2007, 01:41 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,191 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 624 Thanked 291x in 196 Posts Gil: 63,600 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 63,600 Donate | Re: Diabolos Prime For stunning, the only way to go is RDM/DRK (chainspell) or a BLU. BLU has at least 5 different stun spells so that should come in handy.
You absolutely can not allow Nightmare to go off. You're utterly screwed if it does. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:39 PM. | | |