06-02-2007, 02:34 AM | #1 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,542 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,542 Donate | Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster So I have gotten my Sapara of Trials sword and need WS Points.
But as RDM, the native WS's we get access to are rather crap and I am finding it hard to close any decent Lvl 2 SC's for more points. All I can do are close a few Lvl1's...
So, since I am fighting EP/DC mobs anyway...would it be faster for me to sub a gimped /23WAR?
Im not worried about damaged etc, but would subbing WAR allow me to use more WS's, thus giving more of a chance to be able to close a Lvl2 SC?
Its shameful that at 75 I still dont really understand how SC's are forumlated >< 
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bautier.wordpress.com - My new and 1st blog! (No longer updated, some useful info there though :D) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 03:21 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,110 Bank: 19,312 Total Gil: 21,422 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster i did mine in the Eldieme Necropolis on bones at the bottom they were EP sometimes DC i subed /BLU for extra DEF and used Fast Blade to keep them alive longer i soloed from 0 ->250 points then my frined helped me finish with my dagger i solo it from 0 -> 300 with the Joyeuse in the off hand the TP flys in, so goodluck and hope you break it soon  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 03:26 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UK Posts: 340 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 199 Thanked 63x in 34 Posts Gil: 4,732 Bank: 65,804 Total Gil: 70,536 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster Still a bit novice at the skillchain thing too but if I am reading my chart right, subbing pld, war or drk would give you red lotus blade, Seraph Blade and Vorpal Blade if you have over 200 skill.
Vorpal blade can close a distortion with it's primary aspect (it has an impaction secondary aspect but I can't see a way of getting the impaction secondary aspect to activate to let you close a fusion, you would just get a scission)
Edit: Just checked wiki to make sure, you can get Vorpal blade subbing blu too. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 03:30 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,110 Bank: 19,312 Total Gil: 21,422 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster forgot to add the sword can not make light without Savage Blade and Saren /BLU also five you those WS to your best bet is to make lvl2 SC for 3 points or just solo them  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 03:58 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 610x in 395 Posts Gil: 10,358 Bank: 126,476 Total Gil: 136,833 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster If MP won't be an issue, /WAR gives you Double Attack as well, to speed up TP gain a bit. Add sushi to that, then you shouldn't too bad at getting TP.
If MP may be of some concern, go with /PLD for auto-refresh. All depends on who you are breaking the latent with and which monsters you're fighting, I guess.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 06:00 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 300 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8x in 7 Posts Gil: 4,147 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,147 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster Just like with Dagger, all we can do is close 100 level 2s. Grab a buddy (or NPC) and go for it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 06:00 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,570 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 114 Thanked 1,399x in 846 Posts Gil: 3,633 Bank: 210,459 Total Gil: 214,092 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster I did RDM/BLM doing 2 birds right outside Nashmau. Did 40 points in a skillup party but the rest was all soloed. It didn't really take that long. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 05:59 PM | #8 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,542 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,542 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster it feels like iv WS'ed a gazillion times... still nothing lol 
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bautier.wordpress.com - My new and 1st blog! (No longer updated, some useful info there though :D) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-02-2007, 08:26 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 956 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7 Thanked 51x in 29 Posts Gil: 15 Bank: 12,960 Total Gil: 12,975 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster I had to do the same with Staff of Trials, you can only make a Lv2 skillchain with it, no matter what job you are. I did it over three sessions. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-03-2007, 03:02 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,110 Bank: 19,312 Total Gil: 21,422 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster with a Joyeuse offhanded i was able to solo 200 points in 6 hours with my dagger, never had the chanse to try it with the sword as i never had the joyeuse then  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-03-2007, 09:05 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,579 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 154 Thanked 182x in 120 Posts Gil: 15,721 Bank: 81,727 Total Gil: 97,448 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster I unlocked it whenever I was doing something... Amongst my other projects, it ended up taking 6 weeks since I haven't been RDMing for melee purposes all that much and I don't like grinding solo on WS points at 1 point per WS....
My MNK friend helped me break it down most of the way using "Spinning Strike" > "Flat Blade". | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-04-2007, 12:06 AM | #12 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,542 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,542 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster Well Iv been doing a lot of things amongst soloing WS points....
Helping farm 2 Test's, Camping 4 NM's, Skill Up Pt's, grabbed a LS buddy or 2 for a few hours to WS with me....
Still have the latent :/ I have got to be close lol.
I dont have Joytoy so thats out, best I can do is offhand Hornetneedle and Haste. I wish SE made an NPC that could tell you even a "rough" guide of how far along you are. 
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bautier.wordpress.com - My new and 1st blog! (No longer updated, some useful info there though :D) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-04-2007, 04:50 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Play toy Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, England Posts: 1,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 99 Thanked 127x in 60 Posts Gil: 14,877 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 14,877 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster Originally Posted by hongman | | it feels like iv WS'ed a gazillion times... still nothing lol | Don't mean to be funny here but you have unequipped it and re-equipped it to check right? So many people have broken the latent and went on to hammer out another 100 WS points without realising.
I know it's a long shot, but if you have a good friend who is in possession of a kraken it'll help out amazingly if you're solo grinding WS points. I had a kraken for my dagger latent and it seemed to take half the time it took me for my katana one. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-04-2007, 04:55 AM | #14 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,542 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,542 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster Funny you say that....actually I havent (not recently anyway) - It said on Wiki that the elemental resistences woukd disappear without unequipping the weapon.
I dont think anyone I know has a kraken, although I'll make a point to ask tonight lol. 
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bautier.wordpress.com - My new and 1st blog! (No longer updated, some useful info there though :D) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 06-04-2007, 05:00 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Play toy Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington, England Posts: 1,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 99 Thanked 127x in 60 Posts Gil: 14,877 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 14,877 Donate | Re: Umlocking Sapara of Trials faster Originally Posted by hongman | | It said on Wiki that the elemental resistences woukd disappear without unequipping the weapon. | It's been over a year now but I'm pretty sure that's incorrect unless there's been a change since last April. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:14 PM. | | |