[Snowball]

Originally Posted by Mhurron

WHM at 40 should be plenty to take on those bogy's. While WHM doesn't have much in the way of offensive spells for most mobs, against the undead Banish spells and Cure spells should do quite well. Especially the Cure spells as that is probably your higher skill.

Remember Cure deals damage to undead mobs. You also have Stoneskin, Blink and Aquaveil, don't forget to use them.

And silence, remember to keep them silenced.

Ya know, I HAD actually wondered for a while, about using cure spells on the undead. I play another levelling game where amongst a whole lot of other monsters, there are also the undead too, (Neverwinter Nights. Single + Multiplayer too. Anyone ever here played or heard of it?) and just like in FFXl, you can use heal/cure spells to lower their hp.

I had wondered if this option for NWN was the same in FFXl too, and it's a question I was going to ask about at some point , but you took the words right out of my mouth, and it looks like you have just answered that question for me, so thanks for that.

[Snowball]

Originally Posted by Minimee

to answer your questions. the last items you need, the bloody robe is dropped by bogys in valkurm dunes as well as buburima. they are plentiful on the beaches. can you solo those? well you should be able to but i couldnt guarantee it. it seems like i probaly have at lower level whm but not 100% positive.

now as far as the magicked skull and ghouls. they are found in valkurm dunes in most areas. the drop rate is fairly high, but to actually find them to kill you need a ranger and widescan. they only are seen from 20:00 to 4:00. they can be found in great numbers in gusgen mines, but drop rate is low.

i have seen skulls drop after 1 kill and take up to an hour or longer. due to sheer number gusgen is your best bet. just watch your hp closely if it falls to low you will blood agro other ghouls and the wolf type mobs there as well.

Okay, so I'm either going to try Gusgen, or Valkurm at best.

Regarding the times for them to show in Valkurm, I read about that on alla.
Someone said that they show somewhere between 20:00 to 4:00, (or in their words, 0-4) but something else which was posted by this person.......
it was also said that they (the ghouls) can spawn around J-8.
I can try looking around this area, but I'm not really sure if everyone hre can confirm this or not.

Regarding Widescan.
I had assumed it was posibly an ability or trait used only by RNG, cause I looked through my FFXl guide under RNG where it lists all hte Job's abilities and traits to see if Widescan was listed, but I couldn't see it.

So I'm quite unsure what widescan is, and what it does.
Maybe it's a bit confusing for me.

[Snowball]

Okay, 1 last thing for now. (sorry for all my ranting )

A couple of you have mentioned about using echo drops.
I've just realised that there is a lvl 19 whm spell called Silena - removes silence and mute from target. (aswell as the spell "Silence" at lvl 15) I probably already have both of these spells, so I could use Silena instead of echo drops, couldn't I?

[Aksannyi]

No, if you are silenced then you will not be able to cast Silena. It sucks, but it's a spell you can never use on yourself.

[Mhurron]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Okay, 1 last thing for now. (sorry for all my ranting )
A couple of you have mentioned about using echo drops.
I've just realised that there is a lvl 19 whm spell called Silena - removes silence and mute from target. (aswell as the spell "Silence" at lvl 15) I probably already have both of these spells, so I could use Silena instead of echo drops, couldn't I?

How would you cast Silena if you were silenced?

Yes, Silena is used when you're in a party and something casts silence on other party members. All party members should still be carrying Echo Drops, but especially the WHM, BRD, RDM and often BLM (whoever is casting Silena) need at least one stack of them.

[Lunaryn]

Wide Scan is an ability available to Ranger and Beastmaster. It is always available and is subbable. From what I understand, the Ranger or Beastmaster job level affects scan radius, with Ranger having the larger radius at a given level, but I haven't seen full details on this...

As for Bogy, I soloed one in Buburimu with some difficulty, but I'm not sure now on what character at what level... I nearly got killed and had to CFH one in Valkurm at WHM39, but I was just raising and trying to protect someone and ended up being almost out of MP when the fight started, so it was almost pure melee (though I did 2-hour the first time my HP nearly ran out).

If properly equipped and buffed, WHM can be an effective solo job. You'll definitely want to pick up some melee-oriented gear and the best hammer you can get for your level (I'm still working on Alchemy so I can synth Koren a Holy Maul). Make sure your club skill is well-leveled.

As far as getting rare mobs like Ghouls in Valkurm, I wish more parties would pay attention to the benefits of Wide Scan; I had to argue with some otherwise decent dunes parties to let me pull when I was there as RNG main and as WAR/RNG. Maybe it's something about being tarutaru female, but through Qufim a lot of parties tended to ask others to pull when I was THF or RNG (in one case, the one asked to pull had to point out that they had no ranged weapons and no suitable pulling JA and that they should ask me to pull). I didn't start getting much real pulling experience as THF until post-30...

(In hindsight, maybe it's the combination of 'weak' race, 'weak' job, and the fact that I didn't sub NIN, which is somehow supposed to magically make me 'better' despite offering no useful traits or spells at that level...)

[Clever Ninja]

I was able to solo Bogy's on my 31RDM pretty well really. You just have to keep them silenced, apply all your enfeebs(I don't remember if Dia or Bio would do more damage) and just wait it out. It would have been easier had I had Dispel so I could get rid of Ice Spikes. If your not a healing class, just bring a few Hi-Potions or better yet, help lol. Even if it's another level 30 it'll make the fights go much quicker.

[Snowball]

I realise that you cannot cast silena on yourself if you're under the influence of silence since you cannot cast any spells, so I guess you could only use it on other players who were silenced instead, as long as you aren't. (hence the use of echo drops)

I understand that now, but what about cursna? If you are cursed, you CAN cast spells, can't you? So you could cast cursna on yourself if you were cursed. I don't really understand why you can't.
Maybe someone could explain this to me.

Also, I managed to get the skull yesterday from Gusgen Mines. (I soloed it not far from the enterance) I'm just a bit confused about something though.

I attemped to use my cure spells on the ghouls, (they are undead, right?) but everytime I cast them, they were only directed on me and not them. Is there anything I've been doing wrong?
It should work, shouldn't it?

[Murphie]

You can cast Cursna on yourself if you're cursed. I don't know why you would have gotten the idea that you can't.

You probably targeted your macros wrong when you tried to cast cure spells on the ghouls.

[Snowball]

Originally Posted by Murphie

You can cast Cursna on yourself if you're cursed. I don't know why you would have gotten the idea that you can't.

I probably just got a bit confused somewhere.
I read a post above and assumed I couldn't use it on myself. I was seemingly misguided

You probably targeted your macros wrong when you tried to cast cure spells on the ghouls.

I don't use macros, and never have. I found them too complicated. I may have targeted myself in the process, though i'm not sure. I'll just try again next time I'm logged in.

[Murphie]

I'm a little concerned that this game is too complex for you.

[Alshandra]

lol..

well i was really lucky and completely avoided this route, as instead of the six items, he also accepts certain coffer keys. i had randomly come into possession of the quicksands coffer key and had hoarded it away in my mog house with the rest of my crap.

so i just traded that and got on the boat.

if you're having serious trouble with this, that may be something you can look at. i think if you speak to the guy that gives you the quest he gives you different options (ie the key) so you can always check to see which ones he will accept, and grab a few friends and go farm one.

goodluck~