03-07-2007, 11:05 AM | #1 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,717 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,717 Donate | HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? I currently have an unhealthy obsession with Hornetneedle and Im itching to get it  I have plenty of offers on people to murder the NM, however none to help farm spawn item.
I know soloing Wespes at 60 RDM/BLM or /NIN isnt ideal, but is it possible?
A few question/points:
At 60, Wespes at their highest lvl should con DC to me.
- Does Final Sting ignore shadows or would shadows mitigate the damage?
- Do these Wespes hit as fast at the NM?
- Is the camp suitable for me to be able to pull to a safe spot, without links?
- I can borrow Emp hairpin from my buddy, im guessing this piece would be fairly useful?
- What weapons are Wespe type mobs weak to? i.e blunt/piercing/slashing
- Will they spam Pollen?
- Is there a zone line close by?
- Food? Sword and dagger skill @ 130s
The way i had it in my head was like this:
Equip dual dagger or sword, AF (highest def gear i got), with STR ring and Fencers ring, EVA from head and ears
Buff up with Ice Spikes, ProcIII, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Haste, etc
Pull with Bind, then slow, DoT, Para, etc
Melee melee melee with enblizz
I know this is gonna be hard and yes i know it is a very rare drop. However I DO want to try this, with the help and advice of experienced players, particularly melee rdms.
Please feel free to tear this apart as long as it is constuctive  No one-liners "you're wasting you're time" comments please, after I have established the best way to take these on (if possible) ill decide for myself if it is worth my playing time.
Thanks! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 11:38 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,253 Bank: 19,312 Total Gil: 21,565 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? i would love to give advice on soloing him at 60, but i'm 75 and they read too weak, why not skill up your weapons from what you say they sound far from cap, meaning you base ACC for the weapon is low and you ate missing a weapon skill or two (cant remember what lvl Spirits Within), but if you do try this i wish you the best of luck
[Edit] Why not ask a good friend to help [/Edit]
-Srxjo  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 11:41 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,572 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 114 Thanked 1,399x in 846 Posts Gil: 3,979 Bank: 218,962 Total Gil: 222,941 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? Originally Posted by Srxjo | | missing a weapon skill or two (cant remember what lvl Spirits Within) | Skill 175, RDM can get it around lvl 58~59.
I can't offer any other useful information, I skipped trying for that dagger and just waited a few more levels and got Garuda's dagger instead. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 11:45 AM | #4 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,717 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,717 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? I have been gettng into skillup parties and as such my combat skills are getting better... my cap is like 197 i think, so yes very far from cap.
I do wish to add, im not trying to solo the NM, only the wespes. I am curently unable to find any willing volunteers to help out >.>
It makes sense to me even more now that I need to concentrate on melee skills (like combat skills) to be a good meleer... >< Im just really impatient XD | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 11:49 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,253 Bank: 19,312 Total Gil: 21,565 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? if you were on pheonix, i would helped you on the weekend but i click on your character information and see your on bahamut  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Srxjo for above post: | | | 03-07-2007, 12:08 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 130 Thanked 311x in 198 Posts Gil: 1,284 Bank: 79,169 Total Gil: 80,453 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? I was soloing wespes (to get the larvae) before I even got close to Sleep II, so yeah, you can solo wespes easily.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Raydeus for above post: | | | 03-07-2007, 12:15 PM | #7 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,717 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,717 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? Thanks Srx, as always the ones that want to help are on other servers :p tho soon....u might be able to just "hop" across!
Raydeus: Was you doing this as RDM? Can you remember what weapons etc you were usng? Details Details!!
Please, if you can, relive the moment and lay it out for me!!!!! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:24 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 130 Thanked 311x in 198 Posts Gil: 1,284 Bank: 79,169 Total Gil: 80,453 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? When they were VT-IT to me I just Sleep/Nuked them, when they became T I started meleeing them with Enblizzard, Ice Spikes and all the usual stuff.
I used Corrosive Baselard at the time, and my armor was pretty standard (Brigandine, Magic Cuisses and stuff like that), but since you already have AF all you need is to stack on +STR and +Att to make things go faster.
You can sub WAR to make things even easier, you get defense bonus and double attack which is great with a dagger, and at that lvl final sting wont do much against you really, /THF would be preferred for drop rates though. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:28 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 149 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 2,217 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,217 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? I solo'd my pop item as 60nin back in the day without trouble. I can imagine an RDM could do this as well. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:35 PM | #10 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,717 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,717 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? Wow, lots of encouraging feedback
What exacty is the sleep/nuke thing?
I can forsee (esp on VT-IT):
Player casts Sleep
*mob is asleep*
Player casts nuke
Player casts Sleep
*mob resists sleep*
Ahhhhh!
Any good camps round there to pull to? Tips, mobs to watch out for, etc? Iv never even zoned into Temple of Ugg before.... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:39 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,572 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 114 Thanked 1,399x in 846 Posts Gil: 3,979 Bank: 218,962 Total Gil: 222,941 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? Originally Posted by hongman | Wow, lots of encouraging feedback 
What exacty is the sleep/nuke thing?
I can forsee (esp on VT-IT):
Player casts Sleep
*mob is asleep*
Player casts nuke
Player casts Sleep
*mob resists sleep* | You might want to work at getting good at that process. Going OT again, I know.
But ya, thats pretty much what sleep nuke is. Just add some buffs and non-damaging enfeebles in there as well. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:42 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 149 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 2,217 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,217 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? Originally Posted by hongman |
Any good camps round there to pull to? Tips, mobs to watch out for, etc? Iv never even zoned into Temple of Ugg before.... | Right near the entrance, there are 3 wespe pops. Nothing but the wespes aggro right there and you can zone if you have to. Further in, past the tonberries and about the Hornetneedle NM area, there are 2 or 3 more wespes, but i wouldn't advise soloing a lower job there. I only went there to pull those after i farmed the entrance as a 75job.
For my thf, it dropped in 8-10 kills. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:43 PM | #13 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,717 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,717 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? I thought though that the more sleep is cast, the more resistant the mob gets?
I would appreciate a POS of where these things are as well, so i can check the zone out?
Thanks
PS this should prove good for soloing practice
EDIT: nvm about zone 
EDIT #2: My ls were all like its a 1/10000000000000000 drop so {no thanks} - guess it really does depend on luck! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:47 PM | #14 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 24,717 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 24,717 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-07-2007, 12:50 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 149 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 2,217 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,217 Donate | Re: HornetNeedle - Wespes solo? Entrance 1; the wespes are there at J-7 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Hearshot for above post: | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:02 PM. | | |