HornetNeedle - Wespes solo?

[hongman]

I currently have an unhealthy obsession with Hornetneedle and Im itching to get it I have plenty of offers on people to murder the NM, however none to help farm spawn item.

I know soloing Wespes at 60 RDM/BLM or /NIN isnt ideal, but is it possible?

A few question/points:

At 60, Wespes at their highest lvl should con DC to me.

- Does Final Sting ignore shadows or would shadows mitigate the damage?
- Do these Wespes hit as fast at the NM?
- Is the camp suitable for me to be able to pull to a safe spot, without links?
- I can borrow Emp hairpin from my buddy, im guessing this piece would be fairly useful?
- What weapons are Wespe type mobs weak to? i.e blunt/piercing/slashing
- Will they spam Pollen?
- Is there a zone line close by?
- Food? Sword and dagger skill @ 130s

The way i had it in my head was like this:

Equip dual dagger or sword, AF (highest def gear i got), with STR ring and Fencers ring, EVA from head and ears

Buff up with Ice Spikes, ProcIII, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Haste, etc
Pull with Bind, then slow, DoT, Para, etc
Melee melee melee with enblizz


I know this is gonna be hard and yes i know it is a very rare drop. However I DO want to try this, with the help and advice of experienced players, particularly melee rdms.

Please feel free to tear this apart as long as it is constuctive No one-liners "you're wasting you're time" comments please, after I have established the best way to take these on (if possible) ill decide for myself if it is worth my playing time.

Thanks!

[Srxjo]

i would love to give advice on soloing him at 60, but i'm 75 and they read too weak, why not skill up your weapons from what you say they sound far from cap, meaning you base ACC for the weapon is low and you ate missing a weapon skill or two (cant remember what lvl Spirits Within), but if you do try this i wish you the best of luck

[Edit] Why not ask a good friend to help [/Edit]

-Srxjo

[Mhurron]

missing a weapon skill or two (cant remember what lvl Spirits Within)

Skill 175, RDM can get it around lvl 58~59.

I can't offer any other useful information, I skipped trying for that dagger and just waited a few more levels and got Garuda's dagger instead.

[hongman]

I have been gettng into skillup parties and as such my combat skills are getting better... my cap is like 197 i think, so yes very far from cap.

I do wish to add, im not trying to solo the NM, only the wespes. I am curently unable to find any willing volunteers to help out >.>

It makes sense to me even more now that I need to concentrate on melee skills (like combat skills) to be a good meleer... >< Im just really impatient XD

[Srxjo]

if you were on pheonix, i would helped you on the weekend but i click on your character information and see your on bahamut

[Raydeus]

I was soloing wespes (to get the larvae) before I even got close to Sleep II, so yeah, you can solo wespes easily.

[hongman]

Thanks Srx, as always the ones that want to help are on other servers :p tho soon....u might be able to just "hop" across!

Raydeus: Was you doing this as RDM? Can you remember what weapons etc you were usng? Details Details!!

Please, if you can, relive the moment and lay it out for me!!!!!

[Raydeus]

When they were VT-IT to me I just Sleep/Nuked them, when they became T I started meleeing them with Enblizzard, Ice Spikes and all the usual stuff.

I used Corrosive Baselard at the time, and my armor was pretty standard (Brigandine, Magic Cuisses and stuff like that), but since you already have AF all you need is to stack on +STR and +Att to make things go faster.

You can sub WAR to make things even easier, you get defense bonus and double attack which is great with a dagger, and at that lvl final sting wont do much against you really, /THF would be preferred for drop rates though.

[Hearshot]

I solo'd my pop item as 60nin back in the day without trouble. I can imagine an RDM could do this as well.

[hongman]

Wow, lots of encouraging feedback

What exacty is the sleep/nuke thing?

I can forsee (esp on VT-IT):

Player casts Sleep
*mob is asleep*
Player casts nuke
Player casts Sleep
*mob resists sleep*

Ahhhhh!

Any good camps round there to pull to? Tips, mobs to watch out for, etc? Iv never even zoned into Temple of Ugg before....

[Mhurron]

Wow, lots of encouraging feedback
What exacty is the sleep/nuke thing?
I can forsee (esp on VT-IT):
Player casts Sleep
*mob is asleep*
Player casts nuke
Player casts Sleep
*mob resists sleep*

You might want to work at getting good at that process. Going OT again, I know.

But ya, thats pretty much what sleep nuke is. Just add some buffs and non-damaging enfeebles in there as well.

[Hearshot]

Any good camps round there to pull to? Tips, mobs to watch out for, etc? Iv never even zoned into Temple of Ugg before....

Right near the entrance, there are 3 wespe pops. Nothing but the wespes aggro right there and you can zone if you have to. Further in, past the tonberries and about the Hornetneedle NM area, there are 2 or 3 more wespes, but i wouldn't advise soloing a lower job there. I only went there to pull those after i farmed the entrance as a 75job.

For my thf, it dropped in 8-10 kills.

[hongman]

I thought though that the more sleep is cast, the more resistant the mob gets?

I would appreciate a POS of where these things are as well, so i can check the zone out?

Thanks

PS this should prove good for soloing practice

EDIT: nvm about zone
EDIT #2: My ls were all like its a 1/10000000000000000 drop so {no thanks} - guess it really does depend on luck!

[hongman]

which entrance are you referring to?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Image:T...Uggalepih1.png

[Hearshot]

Entrance 1; the wespes are there at J-7