[Neomage]

All RoTZ and CoP areas aside from Sky, Sea, Lufaise Medows, Misreaux Coast and Sancrium(As well as prommys) are acessable w/o doing any missions. The rest oyu get from doing the missions. No quests here!

[Aeolus]

GS = Great Sword
TH = Treasure Hunter

If you could trade rare/ex items RMT would still be camping things like Leaping Boots and Emperor Hairpin, its a good thing you cant trade them. Nothing would be hard in the game if you could send someone else out to get you rare/ex items for quests/missions ect not to mention the fact the RMT would just exploit this by camping every important rare/ex item for quests, missions and just general equips. So a big no to that idea.

There are no quests needed to get into the intial RoZ areas (Western/Eastern Altepa Desert, Labrynth of Onzozo, Korroloka Tunnel). You need to get to ZM13 before you can get into the main RoZ area worth nething, which is sky and you need to complete the Kazham Airship pass quest to gain access to Kazham, The jungles and Norg where you start Zilart Missions after you are rank 6.

For CoP you can go to many areas without quests, Attowa Chasm, Bibiki Bay, Carpenters Landing and Uglerand Range (Spelling?o.O) but you need to get a few cs before you can get into Promies and then once you complete all 3 of those you get access to Lufaise Meadows. After that there is still lots of new areas you need to unlock by going through the missions and theres alot of missions.

[Snowball]

Originally Posted by Aeolus

GS = Great Sword
TH = Treasure Hunter

Thank you!
Took me a short while to work that out!

If you could trade rare/ex items RMT would still be camping things like Leaping Boots and Emperor Hairpin, its a good thing you cant trade them.

That's a diffrerent matter!

Rare/Ex items like the 2 you just mentioned, are wearable gear items dropped by NMs and BCNMs which are used to enhance your character's abilities and other things. Therefore, along with gil, (and a lot of it too) they are unfortunately important to RMT to want to try and sell them to stupid fools who encourage them into the game! (not saying anyone at the forums here has been stupid enough to encourage them. Maybe just the odd player, somewhere out there.... anywhere)

So yes..... I think they should be rare/ex and none tradeable!

Quest items like the ones I'm hoping to get for the ToAU expansion do NOT drop from NMs and BCNMs. Therefore, they are of no use to RMT, and are not as important as wearble gear items!
So I don't see any reason why these quest items should have to be rare/ex, and more to the point..... they should easily be made tradeable too!
Otherwise, how on earth are you supposed to have someone else help you to collect them, and pass them on?!

I guess the ToAU expansion quest is just a forced solo quest for obvious reasons!

Nothing would be hard in the game if you could send someone else out to get you rare/ex items for quests/missions e.t.c.

Well I never said that it had to be easy either! It SHOULDN'T have to be impossible though, which is what it felt like trying to get a crab apron from snippers a few days ago when all I kept getting were Rock Salts right, left and centre!

Not to mention the fact the RMT would just exploit this by camping every important rare/ex item for quests, missions and just general equips. So a big no to that idea.

Again... I don't see quest and mission items being important to RMT! They only want to try and sell wearable gear and gil (unfortunately!) as far as I am aware of!

There are no quests needed to get into the intial RoZ areas (Western/Eastern Altepa Desert, Labrynth of Onzozo, Korroloka Tunnel).

You need to get to ZM13 before you can get into the main RoZ area worth nething, which is sky and you need to complete the Kazham Airship pass quest to gain access to Kazham, The jungles and Norg where you start Zilart Missions after you are rank 6.

For CoP you can go to many areas without quests, Attowa Chasm, Bibiki Bay, Carpenters Landing and Uglerand Range (Spelling?o.O) but you need to get a few cs before you can get into Promies and then once you complete all 3 of those you get access to Lufaise Meadows. After that there is still lots of new areas you need to unlock by going through the missions and theres alot of missions.

Whoah! I never knew those you mentioned (Altepa and such) were RoZ areas! I wandered through a couple of them a few times and it never entered my mind!

There wouldn't happen to be a list somewhere, of all the zones/areas which belong to RoZ, and CoP by any chance? Or maybe I should just read through what's what in the link you gave earlier, feeling a bit confused trying to work out which expansion it's for! Heh!

[Icemage]

Seriously? The fastest way to get ToAU zone access is not by doing the ridiculous 6 item quest.

The fastest way is to head to Davoi and ask the inevitable number of level 75 players hunting for coffer keys for assistance in acquiring a Testimony. Testimonies drop very often when you want coffer keys, so you should have one in short order without even needing to step more than 2 inches into the zone.

Take the testimony (any type) back to the NPC to complete the quest in lieu of the 6 subjob items.

P.S. trying to solo a Bogy at level 34 WHM is definitely not recommended. It's doable, but very dangerous since an early Curse attack will spell your doom.


Icemage

[Raydeus]

Originally Posted by Icemage

Seriously? The fastest way to get ToAU zone access is not by doing the ridiculous 6 item quest.

QFT +2

Getting a test is by far the best choice, if you don't have any high lvl friends then doing what Icemage said is your best (and less annoying) bet at your lvl.

[Ameroth]

Originally Posted by Snowball

Just one small problem.
If I had someone helping me to get these items, and someone got one.
How would they be able to transfer/trade it to me?

The person is in your party; item drops, they pass it and you lot it. Simple.

And like someone said about the Bogy situation, you're probably going to need help. There's got to be at least one high-ish level person you know or something that can help.