09-02-2006, 06:03 PM | #1 (permalink) | Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 315 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 124 Thanked 67x in 37 Posts Gil: 3,008 Bank: 32,191 Total Gil: 35,199 Donate | Brenner: Why so empty? As a fun little LS thing, we decided to have a brenner match. We all had fun, and there were good feelings abound. Now, I think the Brenner island is beautiful, and quite a few of my LS members agree. I've taken to coming out here to craft :D. What I don't under stand, though, is why it seems nobody ever plays Brenner. Like I said, my friends and I all had a great deal of fun, and the zone is beautiful. And yet, I've never come into the Brenner Isle during an official match and seen other people in it, and I've only once seen another registered match. WTF is up with the rest of Vana'diel, I guess my question is  
"One day I shall come back, yes I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, and no anxieties.
Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-02-2006, 06:06 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dumfries, Virgina Posts: 1,934 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 909 Thanked 173x in 135 Posts Gil: 15,518 Bank: 15,173 Total Gil: 30,691 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? From my view, it's not as enjoyable or simple as Ballista. Also those annoying voking and stunning mini MG grow tiring to avoid/kill. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-02-2006, 06:07 PM | #3 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,392 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,534 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? What's brenner? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-02-2006, 06:08 PM | #4 (permalink) | Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 315 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 124 Thanked 67x in 37 Posts Gil: 3,008 Bank: 32,191 Total Gil: 35,199 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Well, to be honest, we never really played the game itself. We took it as more of a chance to just pound on each other on the beach :D. 
"One day I shall come back, yes I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, and no anxieties.
Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 01:39 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 255 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,093 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,093 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by Mog | | What's brenner? | is the responce i normally see, if i mention it.
I like brenner. i managed to get in on a couple of official matches early on (only three aside) but havn't been able to play since.
Official matches are very Euro unfriendly (timing wise 1pm and 3 am), and unofficial matches aren't always doable if you LS isn't interested.
Honestly i think most people still aren't aware of it. It hasn't got NPC's in every city, it doesn't take place in zone people run through like ballista does. It's one dude stood in upper jeuno. Everyone is at least aware of balista even if they don't partake, because it's everywhere. Even in the first couple of days after release, when trying to organise an unoffical match, even though it dominated release notes, most peoples responce was "What's Brenner?"  Kylestie was defeated by Curiosity. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 02:27 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 5,016 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,016 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by Mog | | What's brenner? | Hahahaha, I'm always right.
Why am I not surprised coming out of you?
Brenner is empty because the following three reasons: (a, low-levels only want to become high-level and richer; (b, high-levels only want gear or more merit/hour ratio; or (c, low and high levels don't even know what it is, some of who think they can talk to other people as if they have any knowledge of the game.
a and b can be solved if PvP in general was more interesting, with both rewards and system/job balancing. c is just flat out ignorance, which can be solved with education of the matter. Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 06:42 AM | #7 (permalink) | | go cry emo kid Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 685 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 100 Thanked 39x in 32 Posts Gil: 4,846 Bank: 17,608 Total Gil: 22,454 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? When Brenner first came out, there were people there for every single match for a few weeks. I'd go there and it'd be full, me and a friend would try and team up people, I'd distract them and he'd shoot them from far back, it was all fun and everything...but then pretty much we went back to leveling and we just kinda forgot about it...now pretty much, I try and enter official matches, but no one is ever there like stated above...and my LS just uses it as a chance to beat on eachother without too much distraction or wasting of Ballista Points 
Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 07:11 AM | #8 (permalink) | | The Old Man Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 353 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 12 Thanked 15x in 11 Posts Gil: 5,874 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,874 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Brenner > Ballista
I enjoy PvP in FFXI, even though they have toned down damages in so many ways, its still fun to run aorund and kill/get killed. Most seem to think that PvP is broken in FFXI.
Ballista is summarized with *Gang the weakest player on the other team, then go score.*
Brenner is more dynamic in that you have to worry less about killing people and work towards the goal of capturing Brenner Flames and holding onto them. If your team just tries to kill everyone youll find your Flames disappearing.
Ive noticed most PvP has been ignored since the new content came out. I think most people would rather Assault, Beseiged, Meripo, etc with Ballista/Brenner falling dead last. Also since those things are more widely advertised and accessible at anytime, Ballista/Brenner are more restrictive on their public schedule so people are not going to wrap their time around going to either of these. This applies to private matches since you cannot reserve the Brenner Island when a public match is going on.
If PvP was more widely advertised, opened up more, and made more accessible then I think more people would take an interest. 
75 BLU | THF | PLD | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 07:25 AM | #9 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,392 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,534 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by Legal Fish | Hahahaha, I'm always right.
Why am I not surprised coming out of you? | I was being sarcastic. Congratulations on figuring that out. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 07:41 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Forker of eyes Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 211 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 10x in 6 Posts Gil: 6,944 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,944 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by Mog | | I was being sarcastic. Congratulations on figuring that out. | Maybe he thinks sarcasm is a big hole in the ground somewhere. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 08:11 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 5,016 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,016 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by Mog | | I was being sarcastic. Congratulations on figuring that out. | Ok, sure. Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 12:23 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Π Pie Master Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 4,772 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 112 Thanked 216x in 145 Posts Gil: 69,548 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 69,548 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? No need to start a fuss over it. Carry on. PSN ID - PaiPai Wii# - 2786 8436 6692 3511 Gamertag - PaiPaiMaster Rockman - Midgardsormr WAR75/SMN75/NIN37/THF37/SAM37/WHM41 WIN7-1/ZM18/PM8-4/AM48/WM3 Currently Playing: LittleBigPlanet Beta, WipEout HD, MegaMan 9 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 06:26 PM | #13 (permalink) | Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 315 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 124 Thanked 67x in 37 Posts Gil: 3,008 Bank: 32,191 Total Gil: 35,199 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by Pai Pai Master | | No need to start a fuss over it. Carry on. | If that was just a Tim Gunn quote that came out of your keyboard, I think I may be in love  . 
"One day I shall come back, yes I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, and no anxieties.
Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-06-2006, 12:40 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 419 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10x in 6 Posts Gil: 5,692 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,692 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? Originally Posted by net.drifter | | If PvP was more widely advertised, opened up more, and made more accessible then I think more people would take an interest. | I agree. I didn't even know Brenner had official matches and reserving unofficial matches seemed very confusing to me. This is one area where SE really needs to learn from Blizzard. Even Ballista is a major pain in the ass with the multiple level caps and scheduled matches that nearly always get cancelled anyway.
WoW's Battlegrounds system is very popular because it's so accessible. You just place yourself in one or more BG queues and new instanced games are automatically started in the various BGs as long as there are enough people in the queues. You just have to be in a town to place yourself in a queue and when a game starts you can choose to be teleported into the game instance from anywhere in the game world. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-09-2006, 06:43 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 65 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 11,710 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,710 Donate | Re: Brenner: Why so empty? i just wish they had better pvp  "Oooo oooo, Mr. GM, that guys fishes a lot.
Oooo oooo, Mr. GM, that guy camps the guilds all the time.
You know what?
Shut the hell up." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:27 PM. | | |