How to Join PT / Game Manners (with JP Players)

kokopuphz · 02-26-2003, 09:18 AM

For Kon:

"Sorry but I can't read Kanji"
Hiragana-��킯�_��܂��?A�킽�_��񂶂��߂܂�� ?B
w/Kanji-?\��_��܂��?A��ǂ߂܂��?B
Romaji-moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi kanji ga yomemasen

Kon · 02-26-2003, 07:04 PM

Thank you ^^

Fukkatsu · 03-05-2003, 09:21 PM

I know it is just a little thing, but isn't it:

Romaji-moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi kanji ga yomimasen.

Instead of:

Romaji-moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi kanji ga yomemasen.

Yomimasu means read, so I assume its just a typo on your post. I'm not a Japanese scholar or anything like that, but I do know how to speak Japanese a little. And please, correct me if I'm wrong. I just don't want anyone confused.

kokopuphz · 03-06-2003, 12:33 AM

Hmm, it's hard to explain, but it is yomemasen. It's weird. When using yomimasen, it would be:
Moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi ha(wa) kanji [bold]wo[/bold] yomimasen.

Which would grammatically be correct, but it would mean something a little different. It would be saying "I'm sorry, but I do not read kanji (as in you can, but you choose not to read kanji)" It becomes more of a direct thing that you control, as compared to when you use yomemasen, it becomes more of a thing that you can't help and you do not directly control.. I'm sorry, I really don't know how to explain the sentence structure well..

Fukkatsu · 03-09-2003, 07:59 PM

I don't mind being corrected. I just wanted to clear up some of the questions I had as well. Thanks for the help.

matek · 03-11-2003, 09:14 PM

Yomimasen = Don't Read/Spell
Yomemasen = Can't Read/Spell

Watashi Nihongo yomimasen = I DON'T SPEAK JPN (very rude to say this)
Watachi Nihongo yomemasen = I CAN'T READ JPN

Don't ever use the 1st one...

Awntawn · 03-25-2003, 09:59 PM

Also another tip that will save everyone a lot of time and trouble. Watch and plan your time. If you don't have enough time to play in a party, don't start one. If someone is going to make you get off the computer / PS2 in half an hour, don't join a party.

Also, NO GAME / ANIME / MOVIE SPOILERS in LS/public/party chat. If you wanna talk with someone about something, give them a /tell... Can't stress this enough... :mad: /has bad experiences...

Seishi · 03-26-2003, 10:52 AM

hmm...when your pt are completed, how do you ask "where do we hunt?" not just "dokoni ikimasuka?" there are 2 kanji in it, one looks like a kanji for ranger job lol

Awntawn · 03-26-2003, 11:33 AM

"where do we hunt": gari basyou ha doko desuka?

literally: hunting location is where?

I dunno if the hiragana right, but at least it'll give u the right kanji :sweat: :sweat:

TheMidg · 04-04-2003, 06:10 PM

This was posted earlier....

Alternative: ��킯?E��܂��?A�}�p��ł��Ă��܂��܂��̂� ?A��Ȃ��΂��܂��?Ebr /> G?G
Translation: I'm really sorry, but an emergency has come up, and I have to logout;;

Also...

Alternative: ?�?A��ŗ��܂�
Translation: I will logout here right now

These very useful but i don't really know any kanji so can somebody please put that phrase in to hiragana and romanji please. I would be very thankful.

Thanks and btw great thread! Very useful!

matek · 04-09-2003, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Also another tip that will save everyone a lot of time and trouble. Watch and plan your time. If you don't have enough time to play in a party, don't start one. If someone is going to make you get off the computer / PS2 in half an hour, don't join a party.

Yeah I really agree with this. I remember last few times when I got into some foreigner player parties, they just got out out of the party after freaking 2, 3 fights and leveled up, leaving us undable to do anything but to get the hell back to town and search for replacement.

Oh and... just FYI. I come across many foreigner players who always make PT which Mages Level > Warrior Class Level. As advice, NEVER make such pt. Either Mages = Warriors or Warriors > Mages or you gonna suffer during hunt.

Jonnyram · 04-09-2003, 08:16 AM

Matek, tons of players do that. It happens to me all the time, even with Japanese players, but it is VERY good advice, and I thank you for it

Should have known it really, but never thought about it carefully enough.

Tekerin · 04-12-2003, 07:13 AM

can someone help me translate these phrases for me pls very hard to make a PT sometimes coz i always need to ask these questions but never know how

do u guys want to invite <job> or <job> into PT?

there are <number> of PTs around our levels at <location>

we can either goto <location> or <location>, which one is more suitable for us?

this spot is too dangerous, let's set our camp inside a bit

would the whms pls take turns healing so resting time will be less?

does anyone have a good suggestion where to hunt?

when 1 member has to leave PT coz of whatever reasons, how do u ask the PT if they want to find a replacement or just end the PT?

<A sann>, could u taunt the mob at the beginning of the fight and during renkeis so the thief can do deceiving behind <B sann> pls?

i see onegaishimasu used alot, can someone explain to me what it means or different meanings it may have?

ok, hehe, i know that was alot, thx for translating them for me

dbeeo · 04-12-2003, 07:36 AM

Quote:

do u guys want to invite <job> or <job> into PT?

<job> ga <job> , dono iidesuka?

Quote:

see onegaishimasu used alot, can someone explain to me what it means or different meanings it may have?

literally means execuse me. most of the time, it use to show to the "polite way". eerr..... still dont understand, becoz it is very hard to explain (this is what we call japanese) :sweat:

matek · 04-13-2003, 07:33 PM

do u guys want to invite <job> or <job> into PT?
<job>��<job>��܂��ǂ��܂��?H
<job> to <job> gaimasuga dochirawo iremasyouka?

there are <number> of PTs around our levels at <location>
<location>�ɖ�<number>PT��܂�?B
<location> ni yaku <number> PT gaimasu

we can either goto <location> or <location>, which one is more suitable for us?
<Location>��<location>�ɂ��܂��?��ɂ��܂��傤 ��?H
<location> ka <location>ni ikemasuga dokoni simasyouka

this spot is too dangerous, let's set our camp inside a bit
��͂��Ɗ�Ȃ��ł�?B��܂��傤?B
kokoha cyotto abunaidesu. sukosi sagarimasyou

would the whms pls take turns healing so resting time will be less?
��]��?E��邽�߂ɔ��ŋx�݂܂��傤?B
kaitenn wo yoku sukutameni sirosan koutaide yasumimasyou

does anyone have a good suggestion where to hunt?
��߂̎�?�?E��܂��?H
osusume no kariba arimasuka

when 1 member has to leave PT coz of whatever reasons, how do u ask the PT if they want to find a replacement or just end the PT?
�ǂ��܂�?H�߂��ĕ�?[��܂�?H��Ƃ��U��܂�?H
dousimasu? modotte hojyuusimasu? soretomo kaisansimasu?

<A sann>, could u taunt the mob at the beginning of the fight and during renkeis so the thief can do deceiving behind <B sann> pls?
[b]<A>��?A��̕s�ӂ��܂��邽�߂ɊJ?�ƘA�g�̂Ƃ��_�� ł��܂��?H
<A>san, [b]san no fuidama ga hairutameni kaisen to renkei no toki cyouhatu onegaideimasuka

i see onegaishimasu used alot, can someone explain to me what it means or different meanings it may have?
Onegaisimasu = Please

02-26-2003, 07:04 PM	#17
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03-06-2003, 12:33 AM	#19
kokopuphz Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 90 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Hmm, it's hard to explain, but it is yomemasen. It's weird. When using yomimasen, it would be: Moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi ha(wa) kanji [bold]wo[/bold] yomimasen. Which would grammatically be correct, but it would mean something a little different. It would be saying "I'm sorry, but I do not read kanji (as in you can, but you choose not to read kanji)" It becomes more of a direct thing that you control, as compared to when you use yomemasen, it becomes more of a thing that you can't help and you do not directly control.. I'm sorry, I really don't know how to explain the sentence structure well.. __________________ .... sig....

03-11-2003, 09:14 PM	#21
matek Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 164 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Yomimasen = Don't Read/Spell Yomemasen = Can't Read/Spell Watashi Nihongo yomimasen = I DON'T SPEAK JPN (very rude to say this) Watachi Nihongo yomemasen = I CAN'T READ JPN Don't ever use the 1st one... __________________

03-25-2003, 09:59 PM	#22
Awntawn Veteran Member Allied Ribbon of Glory Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,081 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Also another tip that will save everyone a lot of time and trouble. Watch and plan your time. If you don't have enough time to play in a party, don't start one. If someone is going to make you get off the computer / PS2 in half an hour, don't join a party. Also, NO GAME / ANIME / MOVIE SPOILERS in LS/public/party chat. If you wanna talk with someone about something, give them a /tell... Can't stress this enough... :mad: /has bad experiences... __________________ DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11 ohnoez

03-26-2003, 11:33 AM	#24
Awntawn Veteran Member Allied Ribbon of Glory Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,081 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	"where do we hunt": gari basyou ha doko desuka? literally: hunting location is where? I dunno if the hiragana right, but at least it'll give u the right kanji :sweat: :sweat: __________________ DRK75 / THF37 / WAR37 / RDM60 / BLM31 / PLD11 ohnoez

02-26-2003, 09:18 AM	#16
kokopuphz Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 90 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	For Kon: "Sorry but I can't read Kanji" Hiragana-��킯�_��܂��?A�킽�_��񂶂��߂܂�� ?B w/Kanji-?\��_��܂��?A��ǂ߂܂��?B Romaji-moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi kanji ga yomemasen

03-05-2003, 09:21 PM	#18
Fukkatsu Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 736 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	I know it is just a little thing, but isn't it: Romaji-moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi kanji ga yomimasen. Instead of: Romaji-moushi wake arimasen ga, watakushi kanji ga yomemasen. Yomimasu means read, so I assume its just a typo on your post. I'm not a Japanese scholar or anything like that, but I do know how to speak Japanese a little. And please, correct me if I'm wrong. I just don't want anyone confused.

03-09-2003, 07:59 PM	#20
Fukkatsu Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 736 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	I don't mind being corrected. I just wanted to clear up some of the questions I had as well. Thanks for the help.

03-26-2003, 10:52 AM	#23
Seishi Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 233 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	hmm...when your pt are completed, how do you ask "where do we hunt?" not just "dokoni ikimasuka?" there are 2 kanji in it, one looks like a kanji for ranger job lol

04-04-2003, 06:10 PM	#25
TheMidg Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 963 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	This was posted earlier.... Alternative: ��킯?E��܂��?A�}�p��ł��Ă��܂��܂��̂� ?A��Ȃ��΂��܂��?Ebr /> G?G Translation: I'm really sorry, but an emergency has come up, and I have to logout;; Also... Alternative: ?�?A��ŗ��܂� Translation: I will logout here right now These very useful but i don't really know any kanji so can somebody please put that phrase in to hiragana and romanji please. I would be very thankful. Thanks and btw great thread! Very useful! __________________

04-09-2003, 08:16 AM	#27
Jonnyram FFXI Daddy Brass Ribbon of Service Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 1,148 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Matek, tons of players do that. It happens to me all the time, even with Japanese players, but it is VERY good advice, and I thank you for it Should have known it really, but never thought about it carefully enough.

04-12-2003, 07:13 AM	#28
Tekerin Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 158 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	can someone help me translate these phrases for me pls very hard to make a PT sometimes coz i always need to ask these questions but never know how do u guys want to invite <job> or <job> into PT? there are <number> of PTs around our levels at <location> we can either goto <location> or <location>, which one is more suitable for us? this spot is too dangerous, let's set our camp inside a bit would the whms pls take turns healing so resting time will be less? does anyone have a good suggestion where to hunt? when 1 member has to leave PT coz of whatever reasons, how do u ask the PT if they want to find a replacement or just end the PT? <A sann>, could u taunt the mob at the beginning of the fight and during renkeis so the thief can do deceiving behind <B sann> pls? i see onegaishimasu used alot, can someone explain to me what it means or different meanings it may have? ok, hehe, i know that was alot, thx for translating them for me

04-13-2003, 07:33 PM	#30
matek Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 164 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	do u guys want to invite <job> or <job> into PT? <job>��<job>��܂��ǂ��܂��?H <job> to <job> gaimasuga dochirawo iremasyouka? there are <number> of PTs around our levels at <location> <location>�ɖ�<number>PT��܂�?B <location> ni yaku <number> PT gaimasu we can either goto <location> or <location>, which one is more suitable for us? <Location>��<location>�ɂ��܂��?��ɂ��܂��傤 ��?H <location> ka <location>ni ikemasuga dokoni simasyouka this spot is too dangerous, let's set our camp inside a bit ��͂��Ɗ�Ȃ��ł�?B��܂��傤?B kokoha cyotto abunaidesu. sukosi sagarimasyou would the whms pls take turns healing so resting time will be less? ��]��?E��邽�߂ɔ��ŋx�݂܂��傤?B kaitenn wo yoku sukutameni sirosan koutaide yasumimasyou does anyone have a good suggestion where to hunt? ��߂̎�?�?E��܂��?H osusume no kariba arimasuka when 1 member has to leave PT coz of whatever reasons, how do u ask the PT if they want to find a replacement or just end the PT? �ǂ��܂�?H�߂��ĕ�?[��܂�?H��Ƃ��U��܂�?H dousimasu? modotte hojyuusimasu? soretomo kaisansimasu? <A sann>, could u taunt the mob at the beginning of the fight and during renkeis so the thief can do deceiving behind <B sann> pls? [b]<A>��?A��̕s�ӂ��܂��邽�߂ɊJ?�ƘA�g�̂Ƃ��_�� ł��܂��?H <A>san, [b]san no fuidama ga hairutameni kaisen to renkei no toki cyouhatu onegaideimasuka i see onegaishimasu used alot, can someone explain to me what it means or different meanings it may have? Onegaisimasu = Please __________________

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