04-12-2008, 07:53 AM | #16 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 33 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 21 Thanked 6x in 6 Posts Gil: 5,974 Bank: 1,090 Total Gil: 7,064 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Originally Posted by assumedvigilance | | i forget the actual lvls ofthe sneak and invisible nunjitsu magics but they are available when nin is subed too. | Tonko: Ichi comes available at 18.
Tonko: Ni at 68.
Monomi: Ichi at 50.  WHM75, BLU42, DNC43
Bastok 7-2, ZM DM, PM 5-3, AU12, WG3 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Kasandaro for above post: | | | 04-12-2008, 08:49 AM | #17 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 278 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 7 Thanked 45x in 29 Posts Gil: 2,043 Bank: 7,754 Total Gil: 9,796 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! By the way, subbing NIN for dual axes at 20 isn't really the best of ideas, and subbing NIN at 24 and not bringing along shihei for Utsusemi REALLY makes people look down on you... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2008, 08:52 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Ancient Reploid FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,461 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 137 Thanked 556x in 296 Posts Gil: 27,069 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 27,069 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Utsusemi has its uses and you may be asked to sub /NIN if you have it available. However, Great Axe is still superior until at least 50. Do not doubt the Shield Break. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2008, 06:28 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Spy Moose Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Behind the great Zion Curtain Posts: 115 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 8x in 6 Posts Gil: 1,959 Bank: 769 Total Gil: 2,728 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Originally Posted by assumedvigilance |
food for melee is meat... any meat just be sure it is meat | I like meat. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-12-2008, 11:02 PM | #20 (permalink) | | the dead rising Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Califoria Posts: 43 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 3x in 2 Posts Gil: 1,913 Bank: 1,177 Total Gil: 3,090 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Originally Posted by Jaice | | I like meat. | yes it is quite wonderfull isn't it.
btw love your mithra vader avatar and sig. some of the funniest stuff i've seen in some time.   doesn't it figure? we should have known the devil is a female... it seems so obvious now | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-13-2008, 08:08 AM | #21 (permalink) | | Ancient Reploid FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,461 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 137 Thanked 556x in 296 Posts Gil: 27,069 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 27,069 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! It's not a Mithra. It's an anthropomorphic cat. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Armando For This Useful Post: | | | 04-14-2008, 07:35 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Teh Mato Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oregon! Posts: 153 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 41 Thanked 18x in 15 Posts Gil: 3,839 Bank: 6,031 Total Gil: 9,870 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Originally Posted by assumedvigilance | btw love your mithra vader avatar and sig. some of the funniest stuff i've seen in some time. | Welcome to the internet! VG.cats is the website he got it from. :: Why can't this crazy love be mine? ::
SEVE - HUME WHM (31) BLM (19) THF (17) WAR (9) MNK (5) RNG (9) BLU (1) BRD (1) DNC (1) NIN (1) :: BAHAMUT | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-15-2008, 08:11 AM | #23 (permalink) | | RDM ^.~ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 16 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,504 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,504 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! ok, meat is the most important food for melee job !!  however what is the purpose of having the meat??
As the meat function is totally different from the cookies (sorry guys - a typical mage since i have level all my mages job 1st, so I don't really have any idea what the function of meat!!!) XD
hehe... please help XD | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-15-2008, 08:21 AM | #24 (permalink) | | Hungry hatter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,448 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 105 Thanked 259x in 170 Posts Gil: 211 Bank: 17,100 Total Gil: 17,311 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Generally, meat foods increase your Attack, and thus your damage. Other stats as well, that vary from dish to dish, but Attack is the common feature. Ellipses on Fenrir There is no rush. If you're not willing to take your time, don't be surprised when no one wants to give you much of theirs.
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SEVE - HUME WHM (31) BLM (19) THF (17) WAR (9) MNK (5) RNG (9) BLU (1) BRD (1) DNC (1) NIN (1) :: BAHAMUT | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-15-2008, 10:17 AM | #26 (permalink) | | ~forevernewb~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK, Notts. Posts: 124 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 20x in 13 Posts Gil: 4,503 Bank: 2,019 Total Gil: 6,521 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! If you're after PURE attack (ie. no accuracy) then there's two very common meats that you'll eat(s): MEAT JOIKY and KABOBS. Make use of the jerky up until...... level 25ish? It can be bought from NPCs in all starting cities and other places besides. Cheap and effective. Then feel free to upgrade to Kabobs. They both add +STR and a +attack percentage to your base attack (this %-increase has a fixed maximum amount though - the 'cap' figure - which is why Meat Jerky should be upgraded to Kabobs to take advantage of the higher cap).
Again though, meat is used if you are having no serious accuracy issues!. If you're swinging your Great Axe and missing every other swing, that +attack and +str isn't helping you. Accuracy first, power afterwards. These are a DD's priorities. Ideally, you can use equipment to address accuracy issues, then eat meat to magnify your damage output, but this can be difficult to manage on a budget and/or with little knowledge of how to dress yourself properly. The level and type of mobs you end up EXPing against also add a very real and crucial window of uncertainty concerning your accuracy:attack balance.
Best advice would be to carry at least some meat and some accuracy food at all times ( PUMPKINS make good EARLY accuracy food, with the various Sushis becoming standard accuracy eats at higher levels, 30-40ish, expensive as they certainly can be).
Or there's always DUMPLINGS which offer both attack boosts and a moderate accuracy boost. Typically, not cheap though. (._.);
It's hard to give solid, 'just-eat-this' advice for food. Too many factors affect what would be most effective at any given time. Read up on what each does, consider your own gear, take into account what level/types of mobs you'll be swinging away at and try to use the food that you think will benefit you most (both performance-wise and financially..  ).
One last thing to look at: FOOD GUIDE! Oh, Warp. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways... Last edited by Deeke : 04-15-2008 at 10:24 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-15-2008, 12:01 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Ancient Reploid FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,461 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 137 Thanked 556x in 296 Posts Gil: 27,069 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 27,069 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! You really shouldn't have Accuracy issues if you have Shield Break. And you really should be using Shield Break. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-15-2008, 12:03 PM | #28 (permalink) | | Teh Mato Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oregon! Posts: 153 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 41 Thanked 18x in 15 Posts Gil: 3,839 Bank: 6,031 Total Gil: 9,870 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! Omg, Armando, yes. We get it. Use shield break! XD
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75 PLD, 72 SAM, 70 NIN, 67 WAR, 64 MNK, 47 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-15-2008, 12:16 PM | #30 (permalink) | | ~forevernewb~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK, Notts. Posts: 124 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 20x in 13 Posts Gil: 4,503 Bank: 2,019 Total Gil: 6,521 Donate | Re: lvl up war !!! I remember I had times on WAR though when it was painfully difficult to simply make the TP to use the WS in the first place.  A lolsome qufim party on Pugs springs vividly to mind, overcamping as we were (read: as the party-leader and his gf had us). D:
EDIT: And even though I was a newby newbster, I'd still been taught during the Dunes the importance of aiming to keep G.Axe TP for use at the start of each fight. Shit don't always go to plan though. And times like that teach you many things; one of them being: accuracy issues are still accuracy issues.  Oh, Warp. How do I love thee? Let me count the ways... Last edited by Deeke : 04-15-2008 at 12:22 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:02 AM. | | |