02-25-2008, 02:00 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,478 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,478 Donate | Question about Gear and Subs.. I've been doing my best to have the best gear I possibly can, eating, and keeping my sub leveled (I haven't really had a problem with that.. got my sub to 18 to get my sub in the first place), but there always seems to be at least one person in the party with absolutely terrible gear, and a sub that's either level 1 or.. 8.. or something that isn't half their level.
These people (almost always melee) seem to do pretty poor damage as well.
Is there a point where this sort of stops? Should I expect to be partying with shell ring'd 24/7 WAR/MNKs for the rest of my leveling career?
P.S. Forgive me if shell rings are good for melee damage, I have absolutely no idea what they actually do >.>;  25MNK/18WAR Last edited by Ryuuhikiuu : 02-25-2008 at 02:47 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 02:43 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Vault Dweller Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 464 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 76 Thanked 76x in 46 Posts Gil: 1,508 Bank: 8,738 Total Gil: 10,247 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. Originally Posted by Ryuuhikiuu | | Is there a point where this sort of stops? | Yes, but as time has progressed, this point has gotten later and later. I would not stand for it any where past Valkurm Dunes (lvl 20-ish), but you can choose sooner if you wish. Just be prepared to have to leave/be kicked from a party, when one of those gimp fools is friends with the party leader.
P.S. I am not sure shell rings are good for anything. They are definitely not the best thing at level 14 or higher. Myaku of Garuda Signature courtesy of Selphiie the Enchantress LS: CoVD / GiggleSnorts Manthra - THF/Crafter 56 THF | 43 WHM | 37 WAR | 37 NIN | 25 SMN | 24 PLD | 20 MNK | 20 BLM | All others 10 San d'Oria Rank 6 (6-1) | RotZ 04 | CoP 4-2 | ToAU 12 | WotG 02 Leathercraft 63+1 | Alchemy 60 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 60 | Smithing 60 | Goldsmithing 35 | Clothcraft 5 | Fishing 1 | Chocobo Digging: Recruit | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 05:13 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,821 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 229 Thanked 593x in 384 Posts Gil: 819 Bank: 69,129 Total Gil: 69,948 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. There will always be people who want to leech.
Their justifications vary, ranging from "I don't care" to "I can't afford gear" to "I don't have time to level support job or farm" to whatever--but, basically they rely on the hard work of other five members in party to get themselves decent exp.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 06:30 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,501 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 123 Thanked 88x in 55 Posts Gil: 6,317 Bank: 7,331 Total Gil: 13,648 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. There are people who want to play the game, and people who want the game played for them. Those who gimp themselves can do so because people let them. So stand up, and just say no. If the leader won't boot them, leave.  | Originally Posted by Ellipses | | Really, it's just like pretty much every question about this game that begins with "Why." The answer is "Because." | | Originally Posted by MCLV | | A subjob is like sex, you shouldn't have it untill your 18 but if you don't have it after 21 everyone laughs at you. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 07:54 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 4,478 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,478 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. The thing is, I'm afraid of getting too much bad rep from that and not being invited to groups.  25MNK/18WAR | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 07:55 PM | #6 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 939 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 397 Thanked 1,401x in 895 Posts Gil: 220 Bank: 4,447 Total Gil: 4,666 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. You're not going to get a bad rep from refusing to party with people who aren't pulling their weight. If anything you'll get a good one. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 08:27 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Super Model Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mexico Posts: 252 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 58 Thanked 21x in 20 Posts Gil: 6,870 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,870 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. i so hate seeing ppl at jungle with dream set... and such event gear.
shell rings are good for nothing IMO...maybe for BLM. but at that lvl u can get none quality rings that are like 1-2k...not everything needs to be HQ.
also to the "I dont have time to lvl my sub" stupid justification. i always answer: "dont lvl ur main and go lvl ur sub"..."I dont have time to farm"..."sell the crystals u get from pt at AH"
ppl is just lazy and some times stupid. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 08:43 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 499 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 64 Thanked 47x in 38 Posts Gil: 5,425 Bank: 13,519 Total Gil: 18,944 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. This is an MMORPG. Things don't just get handed to you for free. (Except maybe in WoW.) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 08:55 PM | #9 (permalink) | Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 939 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 397 Thanked 1,401x in 895 Posts Gil: 220 Bank: 4,447 Total Gil: 4,666 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. Must we bring up WoW?
Hint: The answer is no. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-25-2008, 09:35 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Necro Slayer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,380 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 55 Thanked 222x in 126 Posts Gil: 149 Bank: 22,379 Total Gil: 22,528 Donate | Re: Question about Gear and Subs.. Originally Posted by Ryuuhikiuu | | The thing is, I'm afraid of getting too much bad rep from that and not being invited to groups. | The people who would talk amongst themselves about you are the people with the under leveled subs and poor equips. So those people wouldn't want to party with you....is this a bad thing?? LOL
People with common sense will agree with you and not think badly of you so don't sweat it. Originally Posted by Murphie | Must we bring up WoW?
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