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| Sticky Paws Sterling Star Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California
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My Mood: | Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites) ◀Looking for Members.▶ A Cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites This mini-guide aims to teach players how to find party members to form a party with, and does so by examples. References: - FFXIclopedia's info on /search - Auto-Translator & Auto-Translator in Depth - The EXP Party Index The Search function The easiest way to use search for most people is to use the text command, and this mini-guide uses only the text command. The command is /search (abbreviated as /sea), and it returns a list of players according to the criteria the user specifies. Usually, it's best to try to fill out the party with players actively looking for invites. /search all 15-25 invite /sea all 15-25 inv The above looks for all players within the level range 15-25, who are seeking party. "all" means look in all regions, and 15-25 denotes the level range. /search region 12-20 invite The above looks for all players Lv.12-20 in the current region looking for invites. "region" specifies the current region. Note that each region typically includes multiple zones/area. For example, the Zulkheim region includes the Gusgen Mines, Konschtat Highlands, La theine Plateau, Ordelle's Caves, Selbina, and Valkurm Dunes. /search Valkurm 16-20 invite This form is useful for searching in an area one is not currently in. In the above example, the area Valkurm (short for "Valkurm Dunes") is specified explicitly. List of area names can be found here; beware that searching in area the user has never been to will return no result. /search all 25-35 WHM Sometimes, players with needed jobs are not actively searching. Be extra polite when approaching those who are not searching, and do not become angry if they refuse. The above looks for all WHMs Lv.25-35, seeking or otherwise. Replace "WHM" with "RDM", "PLD", or whatever else needed; only one job can be specified at a time. Party Formation
Sending Invites In FFXI, the convention is to send a /tell for invite and wait for an affirmative reply before attempting to add the user to party. Failure to do so is considered to be a major etiquette breach. Given that FFXI mix players from all over the world with different languages, it is a good idea to use the Auto-Translator phrases for communication with other players. Basic invite: ◀Excuse me...▶ ◀Party▶ ◀Do you need it?▶ Informative invite: ◀Excuse me...▶ ◀Level Sync▶42 ◀Party▶ ◀Do you need it?▶ 4/6 ◀Party▶ ◀Ninja▶ ◀Warrior▶ ◀Dragoon▶ ◀White Mage▶ That says the party currently has 4 members intending to sync to Lv.42, and list the members' jobs. Note that it's also OK to use three letter job abbreviations, e.g. NIN, WAR, DRG, WHM, etc. with foreign players. Management and Communication Gather together location: ◀Gather together.▶ ◀Jeuno▶ ◀please▶ Self-explanatory; gathering in Jeuno. Camp location: ◀Camp▶ ◀Qufim Island▶ I-8 Use ◀Camp▶ so members know the topic is about campsite; give the zone name, and the coordinates. Need someone to use a specific support job: ◀Support Job▶ ◀White Mage▶ ◀Do you have it?▶ Let's be very clear here, "subjob" is not an official FFXI term, and using Auto-Translator to spell out ◀sub▶ ◀Job▶ makes no sense whatsoever in Japanese. Please use ◀Support Job▶ under [Game Terms] instead. Specifying a Skillchain: DRG ◀Double Thrust▶ >> THF ◀Viper Bite▶ >> ◀Distortion▶ (◀Water▶/◀Blizzard▶) Or, just: ◀Double Thrust▶ >> ◀Viper Bite▶ >> ◀Distortion▶ The long form is for working with novice players who may not be very familiar with Weapon Skills, Skillchain and Magic Burst, and so lists everything clearly down to elements to MB with. The short form should sufficient for more experienced parties. How to say...
What not to say...
Miscellaneous tidbits:
Version History - 2009.02.26 (Itazura) Modified for Level Sync parties. - 2007.09.20 (Itazura) Replaced FFXIclopedia links with ffxi.wikia.com/wiki. - 2007.08.28 (Itazura) Added "Party Formation" section, how to specify SC, Fish, Puller/Pulling, "Don't need to translate" sub-section. - 2007.08.28 (Itazura) Added ◀May▶◀Bee▶ to "What not to say..." Credit: Aksannyi @ Hades. - 2007.08.27 (Itazura) Creation.
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| Murphie Wings of Honor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Murphie
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| Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
This is really going to revolutionize the way I look for parties. Thanks!
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| Member Bronze Ribbon of Service | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites) |
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| Spaz Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico
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| ~ Mama Gamer ~ Golden Star Join Date: May 2006 Location: Al'Taieu
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My Mood: | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
Another you should add to "What not to say": {May} {bee}. It does not make sense in any possible way to the JP players, don't confuse them. I think it's better to use {I don't know.} Great guide otherwise, that just popped into my head as it is a personal pet peeve of mine. With any luck some of the blind inviters that I've dealt with lately will read this and learn.
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Otherwise, great guide!
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My Mood: | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites) Maybe it's just your server ... but just about every JP on my server knows what that means and several times, I've had JP players use that in party chat. Some of them using it & various other auto-translates for great humor...
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| Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
Some of this stuff is common knowledge (I hope) but the auto-translate helps immensely thank you very much for this guide. Everything you have written proves to be invaluable, keep it up!
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| Finally Back From Lunch Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: May 2007 Location: Michigan
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My Mood: | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
I think you just like to get tons of "thanks" for your posts... Anyway, another great guide and thank you for posting them.
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| Just a glimpse of an ankle Allied Ribbon of Glory | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites) Why avoid "Hello!"? I get the other two (although, seriously, anybody who can't cope with the time-specific greetings being off for their time zone isn't someone I wanna party with anyway), but does "Hello!" contain some context of time in the translation?
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| Sticky Paws Sterling Star Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California
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My Mood: | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
It's just for time zone differences; ◀Hello!▶ is ◀こんにちは▶ (kon'nichiha), which isn't used in (early?) morning, and cannot be used in evening or night time, to my knowledge. Also, I've noticed ◀Nice to meet you.▶ being the greeting of choice from JP players to NA players upon forming party--it's almost universal among JP players who would use Auto-Translators. JP players frequently use よろしく〜 and よろ〜 and よろしくです in my experience, which are somewhat related to 初めまして(◀Nice to meet you.▶), as both are used upon first meeting. (Not correct to use it when you party with same person again, but the translator doesn't have the proper phrase. =/ ) No one would be terribly offended if you use ◀Hello!▶; it's just a matter of acknowledge JP players' preferences. (Any little edge to help me get more invites--I like JP parties. XD )
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| sweet broken hearted machine Starlight Medal Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Facility A220S-0024, Room 211
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| Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
You'd probably get the point across just fine if you just said "Hello!" or "Hi" without the translator. I never understood why こんいちは is so widely translated as Hello, when it's only really used as Good Afternoon, though. |
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| Senior Member Brass Ribbon of Service | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites) It's because there's no direct single-phrase translation for 'Hello' which captures the same meanings as the way we use it in English. In Japanese you greet someone with either おはよう, こんにちは or こんばんは depending on the time of day, and since こんにちは is the least specific of the three, that gets used as a general translation for 'Hello'.
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| sweet broken hearted machine Starlight Medal Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Facility A220S-0024, Room 211
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| Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
which is what I'm saying. I don't understand why people feel the need to translate something that can't really be translated directly.
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| Junior Member | Re: Looking for members. (A cookbook for /search and Auto-Translator invites)
Those are some nice tips, and this may be a bit off subject but Take Care is a proper closing for goodbye. I do agree its telling them to be careful, but because of that its a much more sympathetic goodbye. Someone is already leaving they say goodbye which is flat out see ya. Take care says be safe on your travels. Your just wishing them well. Any how thats my rant. "Take Care user since FOREVER" |
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