[Omni]

relax people.

unless he said u guys have to stay... which i dont know how he would make you guys, i think he was just trying to squeeze in more xp in the X minutes more u guys were gonna stay up.

in the end, do what you have to do. no one is gonna care or hold it against you that you have to goto bed because you have work in 6 hours. if they do? that's just sad then. RL is really greater than game. remember that.

[IfritnoItazura]

Hmm. When most of the party members agreed on 20 minutes, then the WHM uses the ring at or right before 20 minutes was up, then it's slightly rude. (That is, if he didn't get agreement from other party members to stay longer before using the ring.)

If your friend says "I have to go soon; long day at work tomorrow," you should not do anything to keep him longer if you're really a friend. In fact, you should just offer to let him go ASAP; if you were doing something together, you can always pick it up again next day or some other time.

It would be inconsiderate to say or do things to cause him to want to stay longer than he should, for whatever the reason.

p.s. I've ended parties at 30 TNL and less without saying a word--a good party is reward enough, and bad parties make me want to escape now; I can get that 30 exp at next party easily.

[Eauijhkuu]

lol.
I might need to clarify myself for some, since it seems emphasis might have mislead you.

It's not about the WHM using his exp+ ring.

It's moreso about when and why he used it after 20 minutes had expired.

And we ended up staying as long as you would need to to accumulate 10~12k w/a bonus ring on.

Albeit, irregardless of the time or ammount that it actually took to get it, it was moreso the timing and the intentional matter in which the ring was used in an attempt to keep the party going, even after everyone had agreed to disband in the 20 minute time frame.

But from the recent responses, it'd seem that you guys wouldn't find a problem or care much at all w/ that. Which is more than slightly interesting.

Maybe I should just hurry and finish my merits. Or something.

[Shadowneko]

ok I admit I havn't done much parting at lvl 75(I took a big extended break to farm up endgame gear and work a second job up to 75) but that does seem abit rude. I'm not saying you should take up a fight with him, but he at least needs a talking to...

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Originally Posted by Eauijhkuu

It's not about the WHM using his exp+ ring.

It's moreso about when and why he used it after 20 minutes had expired.

And we ended up staying as long as you would need to to accumulate 10~12k w/a bonus ring on.

Albeit, irregardless of the time or ammount that it actually took to get it, it was moreso the timing and the intentional matter in which the ring was used in an attempt to keep the party going, even after everyone had agreed to disband in the 20 minute time frame.

But from the recent responses, it'd seem that you guys wouldn't find a problem or care much at all w/ that. Which is more than slightly interesting.

Maybe I should just hurry and finish my merits. Or something.

Just because someone used their anniversary ring doesn't mean everyone else is obligated to stay until the charge wears off. It's the WHM's choice to use the ring in the first place. He's taking the risk that he won't get the full benefit from the charge. Next time, just ignore that factor when making the decision on continuing or disbanding. If the pt disbands, the WHM has no one to blame for a potentially wasted charge other than himself.

And as Taskmage pointed out, it actually reduces the amount of time it takes to get that next merit. If the WHM was only 300 exp from next merit, the ring could make it happen in one kill instead of 2.

Could he have used it 20 minutes earlier? Perhaps. But then, maybe he didn't realize just how close he was going to get to his next merit in those 20 minutes.

[Taskmage]

Another thing to consider is that if it was particularly late at night your friend may not have been using their best judgement. I could very easily see a scenario where the sleepy whm puts on their ring intending to squeeze out one last merit, then gets distracted by curing and forgets to pop the ring until "oops, it's been 20 minutes already? ><" I've done very similar things myself.

Maybe some explanation applies or maybe it doesn't, but at any rate I wouldn't be too quick to judge the person on the basis of this one incident.

[Lunaped]

Originally Posted by Eauijhkuu

lol.
I might need to clarify myself for some, since it seems emphasis might have mislead you.

It's not about the WHM using his exp+ ring.

It's moreso about when and why he used it after 20 minutes had expired.

And we ended up staying as long as you would need to to accumulate 10~12k w/a bonus ring on.

Albeit, irregardless of the time or ammount that it actually took to get it, it was moreso the timing and the intentional matter in which the ring was used in an attempt to keep the party going, even after everyone had agreed to disband in the 20 minute time frame.

But from the recent responses, it'd seem that you guys wouldn't find a problem or care much at all w/ that. Which is more than slightly interesting.

Maybe I should just hurry and finish my merits. Or something.

Well, unless you asked if they did that purposefully then I don't see the problem with it. During a PT when I get my ring going, and if they all decide to disband, I'm going to find a place to solo and use the xp ring to its full extent. It's a waste to use it and not get anything for it.

It was honestly also your decision to stay or not. You could of simply said, "Fuck it," instead of hanging around like that. Saying no isn't as hard as you think it might be.

It would be annoying if they did it on purpose to keep the party going but at any given point in time if I'm tired and want to go to sleep, I'm going. Regardless if they're in my LS or not. If we all agreed to leave within that set amount of time then that's what's going to happen.

It seems like you forget you have a choice to say yes or no to someone or have the ability to just walk away from a situation like that.

[Karinya]

I realize some people are going to look at the dates of the previous two posts, disregard everything else and descend on Lunaped with righteous zeal, so before he gets run over by a train I'd like to add one thing: forming/joining very short lived parties or manipulating pt members to get a few more exp after the agreed on disband time is doubly unforgivable *now*, when you can easily get that last little smidgen of exp in Campaign.

Given the ridiculously long time that you have to use up a charge on anni ring, though, I wouldn't feel bad about disbanding on someone before it was finished. Even a DD should be able to find another party sooner than that - or hell, solo 3k worth of easy prey.

[IfritnoItazura]

Yesterday, Valkurm Dunes party disbanded with me at 18 TNL on Scholar. XD (No, I didn't make a fuss, or even let anyone know.)

In another party later, I got those 18 points, and yet another level--then promptly deleveled on a wipe (HP'ed, changed job to raise people). Late night, got an unsolicited invite, and leveled up again, and yet again.

Seriously, what's the big deal about being a few points from level or merit or what not? Begging parties to stay 20 minutes, then another 20, then another... It's just so unseemly. =b

[Ellipses]

I pretty much never tell parties when I'm close to leveling. Unless someone asks, and then notices that I didn't answer, and asks again.

I just look at it as "Wow, I've got a really huge buffer now. I can die so many times!"

Although this also tends to make me the jackass who levels and starts gimping XP for everyone else two fights in.

(Bit different when it's merit points, I'm sure. But still.)

[TheGrandMom]

/em smells an old and rotting thread...

/em looks around and sees a necro'd thread trying to claw its way back to life...

/em gets out her cane of doom and raises it high above her head to beat down the necro thread...

/em falls on her a**....too much eggnog....

/em goes to sleep in the corner...

[Yellow Mage]

The Necro Slayer . . . was Slain by the Necro?

[Taskmage]

The egg nog taketh its toll on us all.