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Old 03-08-2007, 09:59 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Besieged Tips
Yeah, that Mijin is typically why NIN mobs get saved for last. Its great to see one get one off and watch an entire alliance drop to red or zero. Its even better when the Shadow Ring procs and I get hit with it for 0. All that usually means though is that I die last.





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Old 03-08-2007, 02:14 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: Besieged Tips
I'm pretty sure Mijin is *always* aoe, it's just that players don't use it much and when they do they're rarely facing multiple enemies.

Anyway... Carbuncle had one of those no-general wins last night against a level 7 Undead Swarm. It's pretty intense having everyone at the Hall of Binding trying to drag ghosts, qutrub or whatever back outside so it doesn't get too close to the AC. Lamia No. 3 was right there in the square outside the Hall charming dozens of people, but we somehow managed to keep her out of the Hall and kill enough other mobs to force a retreat.


Undead Swarm (at least at level 7) now have these big yellow clockwork-like things, sort of like an automaton the size of a full grown Troll. They're called Acroliths, if I recall correctly, but I didn't see much of their TP moves. And yes, a level 7 besieged that retreats goes back home and immediately has 85 enemy forces. It's too early to tell if that's going to lead to more frequent besiegeds overall.



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Old 03-08-2007, 02:24 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: Besieged Tips
Didnt realize there was a scoreboard per server on how many wins and losses...
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Besieged_Server_Records
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:05 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Besieged Tips
Someone in my alliance for an upcoming besieged just told us how much time is left until it actually starts....

Was he BSing, or is there a tool somewhere that actually tells you when Besieged is going to happen?



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Old 03-10-2007, 01:25 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: Besieged Tips
Last I checked, there was a fairly solid calculation for figuring out when it started. Or he could've just had people watching outside.

I don't know if there's a program, but if you could be bothered to time things, it wouldn't be hard to guess.



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Old 03-10-2007, 02:44 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Actually, he said... "32 minutes."...

I timed it when he said that... sure enough, they came at 32 minutes. :-P He was exact.



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Re: Besieged Tips
Another thing that helps people in besieged.

For God's sake, if I see another <pos> I'm going to strangle the person that said it. Those of us whom have not memorized which <pos> goes where will have to open up their map and look up the damn thing to know what area someone is talking about, which is enough time to get killed. Badly.

It's alot more helpful to state the actual location. i.e. Southern Choco area, hall of binding square, stuff to that effect. At least don't make us pull out our maps and scroll all over the damn place just to know where the last remaining general is @.@
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I just keep spamming "/tell Aksannyi <pos>" to myself as I walk further, that way I know roughly where I am.



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Actually, he said... "32 minutes."...

I timed it when he said that... sure enough, they came at 32 minutes. :-P He was exact.
And this changes what I said in my post how?



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Re: Besieged Tips
Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
I just keep spamming "/tell Aksannyi <pos>" to myself as I walk further, that way I know roughly where I am.
/echo <pos> does the same thing in 1 line instead of 2.

Anyway, descriptions of the location don't make sense to someone who speaks a different language, but (|Galka|) (|General|) (|Help me out!|) G-7 is understandable to anyone.



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Re: Besieged Tips
Originally Posted by Eohmer View Post
Actually, he said... "32 minutes."...

I timed it when he said that... sure enough, they came at 32 minutes. :-P He was exact.
"Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while."

Not saying that your friend is a blind pig. But 1-for-1 isn't a big enough statistical sampling to show that your friend can exactly predict the start time for Besieged.

Note also that 60 seconds is a large enough window so that an estimate (such as 32 minutes) can appear to be exact rather than simply pretty good. If he told you how much longer in minutes and seconds correctly multiple times, then I might be as impressed as you seem to be.

But then, I'm a skeptic.



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I would be interested if there were a way to calculate. Maybe you can ask your friend?

One thing I have noticed while doing beseiged thats highly stupid. Is people /sh their XP bonus and/or IS bonus after the event. WHO THE HELL CARES??!!

But in general I am enjoying Beseiged, Iv now done a few solo and a few in parties.

I wonder if anyone has done any tests to see how many Cure IV's you need to cast to get max XP for each level

Now, if some people could kindly go and rescue the free Warp Taru and Chocobo NPC on Bahamut I would greatly appreciate it!!"
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Re: Besieged Tips
lol...

I never said he was my friend. I said "someone in my alliance for a Besieged."

That doesn't mean I know him.


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Now, if some people could kindly go and rescue the free Warp Taru and Chocobo NPC on Bahamut I would greatly appreciate it!!"
I would recommend using the older brother.
Did you know that if you use him enough times, he'll eventually give you a 2nd destination?

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Lol

I would rather use the free taru than having to keep buying Silver coins, for the sake of a short run from just outside Jeuno. Hell it takes me longer to get through the lag at the AH in WG than to just run it!

Handy to know about the second destination though.
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If you have outpost warps unlocked, the pay taru can get you pretty much anywhere in the world in a few minutes.

also, @ 100 ISP per coin, the silver pieces aren't too expensive.





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