Besieged Tips - Page 3 - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

LyonheartLakshmi · 02-20-2007, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by eticket109

Provided the zone isn't full you can get back in. If the zone is full you'll get kicked out even if your hp is in Al-Zahbi.

If I was already in the zone before I HP, wouldn't the act of me HPing ensure that there was room for me? But then, by that logic, I should be able to split a Fire Cluster even when my inventory is 60/60.

To ensure that there is room for me, should I do a /search of the zone during besieged? If I'm KO'ed, it's too late for that, since I can't carry out a /search at that point. What's a safe number of participants in that zone which would still allow me to HP in the middle of Besieged?

Edit: One more question. If I'm dead at the end of Besieged, will I still receive exp/IS? Last Besieged I was in, a large crowd of players (of which I was one) got slammed by a Mamool Ja Sapper. I personally took 4k dmg. Lots of dead bodies on the ground. I got a Raise just a few seconds before the Mamool Ja retreated. I'd hate to have been dead, and not gotten a reward for all the time I spent waiting just for the Besieged to start.

hongman · 02-20-2007, 10:53 AM

If XP isnt reset and I can reset my 2hr, then I could have some fun with Chainspell XD

Mhurron · 02-20-2007, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by hongman

If XP isnt reset and I can reset my 2hr, then I could have some fun with Chainspell XD

It doesn't do much. It was fun though.

eticket109 · 02-20-2007, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Skoal

Do the besieged Quturbs take a lot more damage than say mamool ja mobs?

Yeah... Qutrubs are weak to piercing. We can do some nasty things to them.

And to answer Lyonheart:

The problem lies in that its not a static number. There is usually a steady flow in or out of the zone. If there is close to the max (700~) in there the whole time, then the spot you left may get filled before you get back in. However, if the number is the more typical 400-500 then you should be able to get right back in.

If you are dead when Besieged ends, you do not get an xp bonus. I'm 99% sure you don't get ISP as well.

eticket109 · 02-20-2007, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by hongman

If XP isnt reset and I can reset my 2hr, then I could have some fun with Chainspell XD

nukes don't do much in besieged, but you could chainspell Bio II for some decent dark magic skill ups.

keep in mind if you have to run in every time you hp, you'll run the risk of being outside the zone or dead when the event ends, both of which result in 0 xp.

Cyprian · 02-20-2007, 11:16 AM

Yes if you HP xp is reset. I know this from personal experience(sp?). At level 6 Besieged the max exp Ive seen is 1080. For the most part I believe you normally get 1000 cap unless you kill a few extra mobs or something. You get exp even if you do nothing. Ive entered a Besieged as it ended and got around 180exp or something. You will not get exp if you're dead at the end and pretty sure you don't get any IS.
It is easy to get max exp if you are a mage. RDMs can get it easily, Haste and Cure some people including NPCs, dispel some mobs (Qutrub are good because they use AoE Protect, Shell, and Haste), spam Dia on any claimed mob you see, Raise dead people, etc etc etc and so forth...

hongman · 02-21-2007, 05:30 AM

B.R.I.N.G I.T O.N!!

So the xp is literally just a lil "bonus", nothing to write home about, but I could get skillups galore from this. Ill help out anyways of course XD

So Besieged ends when either the Astal is taken or we beat all the mobs?

sdillon · 02-26-2007, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by hongman

B.R.I.N.G I.T O.N!!
So Besieged ends when either the Astal is taken or we beat all the mobs?

A little late on the reply but: besiege ends when the invading forces retreat. A number of events can trigger the retreat:
- defeat enough of their forces
- defeat one or more of the 3 mid level NMs (I'm still unsure about this statement, as I have not been to a besiege lately where all 3 NMs are still standing)
- defeat the big bad (I dont think happens regularly - Only one I've witnessed personally is Gurfurlur and that was fun ^^)
- when the AC is taken (this can only happen if 1) all generals are dead 2) they breached the hall of binding and the defending forces were not able to stop them from taking the AC. On hades for example, though I wasn't there personally, my LS mates witnessed the coolest besieged ever. Invading forces had breached the Hall of Binding but the entire zone of defenders were there at the doorstep to greet them. not even 1 enemy force was able to reach the AC before the call for retreat was sounded

Fun stuff.

Nazo · 02-26-2007, 01:18 AM

Question: If you die trying to intercept the enemy forces on their way to Al Zhabi do you lose xp? What effect does intercepting actually have?

LyonheartLakshmi · 02-26-2007, 08:40 AM

My tip: don't engage Mamool Ja Sapper. Every time I attend a Besieged against the Mamool Ja, I end up dying once or twice to this fiend. I don't even know what kind of TP move or spell it's using. I just know that one second I don't even have hate from Mamool Ja Sapper, and the next second I've suffered 4k+ dmg and everyone around me is hitting the dirt with me. This guy has one hard hitting AoE.

sdillon · 02-28-2007, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Nazo

Question: If you die trying to intercept the enemy forces on their way to Al Zhabi do you lose xp? What effect does intercepting actually have?

Yes, if you intercept during the 'advancing' stage you will loose exp.

hongman · 02-28-2007, 10:04 AM

I finally did my first Besieged!!

It was...funny.

Entered the zone, and I was like "where is the mobs?"

A minutes later they started to fade into view :p

Ran around, cured, raised, got high on Wizard and Giants drinks. They in lots of Bio II for skillups, and some -ga's for fun.

At that point Blizz II was (still is lol) my strongest spell. So I found an unclimed mamool Ja, and did ES + Blizz II with staves and all +INT gear - and it hit it for a dazzling 6 dmg!! I died shortly after. Due to the lag sometimes Im dead in a flick of the screen, wierd.

Lasted about 45 mins, not long, got 1080 exp.

Cyprian · 03-07-2007, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by LyonheartLakshmi

My tip: don't engage Mamool Ja Sapper. Every time I attend a Besieged against the Mamool Ja, I end up dying once or twice to this fiend. I don't even know what kind of TP move or spell it's using. I just know that one second I don't even have hate from Mamool Ja Sapper, and the next second I've suffered 4k+ dmg and everyone around me is hitting the dirt with me. This guy has one hard hitting AoE.

I'm pretty sure that is Mijin Gakure(sp?). Since they are NINs and no other Mamool Ja can use it and I'm pretty sure that's the animation. Why it can do an AoE of 4k+? I don't know.

Originally Posted by sdillon

AOn hades for example, though I wasn't there personally, my LS mates witnessed the coolest besieged ever. Invading forces had breached the Hall of Binding but the entire zone of defenders were there at the doorstep to greet them. not even 1 enemy force was able to reach the AC before the call for retreat was sounded

Fun stuff.

You mean that they actually reach the AC? O.o???? Thats only happened once(maybe twice) on Siren, and we've yet to lose one! GO Siren!!! w00t!!!!!

LyonheartLakshmi · 03-07-2007, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Cyprian

I'm pretty sure that is Mijin Gakure(sp?). Since they are NINs and no other Mamool Ja can use it and I'm pretty sure that's the animation. Why it can do an AoE of 4k+? I don't know.

Wiki confirms that. It can do Mijin Gakure in AoE form. Do any other NIN type NMs in the game get to do AoE damage when using Mijin?

Olorin401 · 03-08-2007, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by LyonheartLakshmi

Wiki confirms that. It can do Mijin Gakure in AoE form. Do any other NIN type NMs in the game get to do AoE damage when using Mijin?

All the NIN mobs in Dynamis (not just NMs) can do AoE Mijin Gakure, as well as some of the NMs in various CoP Missions (Cryptonberries in 7-4 come to mind).