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Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 10,704 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,704 Donate  | Haste Cap Haste cap... anyone have the exact details on what it is, what the mechanics are, and how march + haste + hastega + haste gear plays into it? |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 07-20-2006, 04:03 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 552 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 6x in 4 Posts Gil: 18,349 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 18,349 Donate | Re: Haste Cap crap, I forget this from the old BRD/NIN faf-tank idea, but it was 50-55% i think? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 04:05 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 10,704 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,704 Donate | Re: Haste Cap really? That high? If you can give me a "definitly over 35%" then I'll definitly be happy. Though I'd still love to know the actual mechanics on it if anyone knows! | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 04:11 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 552 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 6x in 4 Posts Gil: 18,349 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 18,349 Donate | Re: Haste Cap Yeah, is up over 35% definate I think. I believe the Mazurka recast capped at 35 seconds. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 04:16 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9
Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,155 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,155 Donate | Re: Haste Cap A WAR that goes to this forum made a topic on BG forums testing this stuff. The numbers were a bit confusing, and I was only skimming it over, but his results showed that you won't really hit the haste cap (or I believe he put it as a minimum delay cap) without the help of soul voice + double march.
In equipment, it's supposedly 25% for cap. Most jobs can't even exceed this easily other than ninja - with use of their JSE earring. (I believe MNK/DRG can hit 30% or 31% in gear, and as far as I can tell, they have the second highest amount of haste gear available.)
Of course, you can go higher than 25% just by using haste and/or march.
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I'd link the post with the haste testing, but I can't find it. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 04:20 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 10,704 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,704 Donate | Re: Haste Cap how much do haste and march add specificly? Well, Haste more than march as I'm WHM. Or is that something based on enhancing skill? May seem like a silly question, but as I'm generally concerned with being the best I personally can be, I don't typicly look at mechanics - i just level enhancing, and cast haste on people who need it, so I dun know these things XD | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 04:40 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9
Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,155 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,155 Donate | Re: Haste Cap I don't know how much march adds, but I believe haste is somewhere between 12.5% to 15%. I don't know if haste gets stronger as you level or not, honestly. I don't believe it does though.
Anyway, I found that topic I mentioned earlier. (It started to bug me.) http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/vie...haste+cap+test | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 08:16 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 221 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3
Thanked 10x in 6 Posts Gil: 1,441 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,441 Donate | Re: Haste Cap I'm fairly sure the enhancing spells aquaveil, haste, blink, refresh and regen have fixed durations and effects, and the bar- and en- spells, stoneskin and phalanx scale up with your skill. I could be wrong about this(I'm only lvl60 rdm), but the first lot don't seem to get any better. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 08:41 PM | #9 (permalink) | | RADIO GOO GOO Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,544 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,626
Thanked 1,419x in 996 Posts Gil: 20,388 Bank: 245,744 Total Gil: 266,132 Donate | Re: Haste Cap I don't know the minor caps (from spells, equipments), but I beleive that spells cap at 50% haste, and melee delay is either the same, or higher.  | Originally Posted by someone who just spent ten minutes with feba | | wtf? I am horribly disoriented and scared. I can't tell what's real anymore | | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 08:50 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 10,704 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,704 Donate | Re: Haste Cap The 50% thing - if I'm reading the test right - is that the recast timer of spells cannot be reduced below 50%. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-20-2006, 10:50 PM | #11 (permalink) | | RADIO GOO GOO Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,544 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,626
Thanked 1,419x in 996 Posts Gil: 20,388 Bank: 245,744 Total Gil: 266,132 Donate | Re: Haste Cap sevenpointflaw: that's what I mean. | Originally Posted by someone who just spent ten minutes with feba | | wtf? I am horribly disoriented and scared. I can't tell what's real anymore | | | | ::Quote Selected:: | |
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