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Thanked 102x in 84 Posts Gil: 5,099 Bank: 30,559 Total Gil: 35,658 Donate  | BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. Can anyone give me a strategy to do this particular BCNM? Maybe a hint to thebest PT set up? >.< |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 04-24-2006, 08:34 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Maybe a lion? Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,843 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 221
Thanked 646x in 331 Posts Gil: 3,475 Bank: 53,487 Total Gil: 56,962 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/13 http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=504 http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j...m/01SkyOrb.htm
Research ftw. All the dhalmels are immune to lullaby, so horde lullaby is out of the question. Sleep will land, but not 100%, and you have no access to Sleepga at that level. Dhalmel are weak to wind and bind and gravity work. Based on that I'd suggest a pair of rdm to ES+Sleep two wives and bind+grav kite the other two. That buys you some time against 4/5 wives.
For the other two ... Dhalmels hit hard but attack slowly, so a blink tank is probably your best bet. You can get utsusemi from sub at that point so you have just a little flexibility. Just remember that dhalmels have a Silence tp move, so keep Echo Drops on you. They also have an AoE heal move, so you should definately fight them one at a time to avoid multiplying the benefit from that.
So we've got two nin or /nin to tank Nenaunir and his 5th wife and two rdms for sleeping/kiting the other four wives. Fill in the other two slots for whatever you think you need. A blm or 3rd rdm to help keep the wives under control seems prudent—with just two mages the likelyhood is high that something will get resisted or a beat will get missed and everything will fall apart. A blm could help alleviate that and throw more damage on the target. Seems like a whm wouldn't necessarily be much help in this situation, so the 6th slot should probably go to a good DD.
Remember that mobs slowly build resistance to Sleep, Bind and Gravity so it might be a good idea to have your rdms Sleep the dhalmel they were kiting when the first two wake up and switch to kiting them to minimize that effect.
Hope this strategy works for you, since I pretty much just came up with it looking at those links.  Let us know how you do and what strategy you go with. There doesn't seem to be a lot of good information just floating around about this BCNM.
Edit: Oh! Noticed something rereading this. AoE heal + Sleep = bad for you. Ask the mandies in Yuhtunga that are fighting blue mages now. Fight whichever dhalmel is active far away from the sleeping dhalmels or it will wake them up with Healing Breeze.
Last edited by Taskmage : 04-24-2006 at 08:47 PM. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-25-2006, 12:07 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,250 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 62
Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 11,935 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,935 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. How does 6x BLM using -ga work? You know ... like Operation Desert Swarm >_> Sounds like too much work for that BC of stupid Dhalmels ... | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-17-2006, 07:36 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Maybe a lion? Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,843 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 221
Thanked 646x in 331 Posts Gil: 3,475 Bank: 53,487 Total Gil: 56,962 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. Has anybody actually done this BCNM? It looks like a pisser of a poser, so I'd be interested to hear what people have tried on it and how it fared. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-17-2006, 03:28 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Dr. Tran Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Posts: 1,512 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 35
Thanked 102x in 84 Posts Gil: 5,099 Bank: 30,559 Total Gil: 35,658 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. Yeah, we tried it... It didn't go so well... in fact, it was pretty horrible. >.< | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-17-2006, 04:55 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Maybe a lion? Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,843 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 221
Thanked 646x in 331 Posts Gil: 3,475 Bank: 53,487 Total Gil: 56,962 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. XD Well, don't feel too bad. As far as I know there's not a single successful strategy for this BCNM posted anywhere, so if anyone had better luck than you, they're keeping quiet. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-22-2006, 08:54 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Lazy Tele~ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Over thar Posts: 390 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 43
Thanked 77x in 47 Posts Gil: 9,323 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,323 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. Some LS friends and I tried it and we got wiped three consequtive times. We tried the ES+Sleep route and that worked precisely shit. x_x After the third attempt we just gave up. I'm at a loss as to what to do with it.  "If you keep me waiting much longer, it damn well better be the end of the Galaxy." ~ Kaidan 
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Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,685 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,685 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. | Quote: | | Some LS friends and I tried it and we got wiped three consequtive times. We tried the ES+Sleep route and that worked precisely shit. x_x After the third attempt we just gave up. I'm at a loss as to what to do with it. | tried reraise items? [main]@75 = BLM+WAR
[sub]@37+ = NIN THF RNG WHM RDM | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-10-2006, 10:53 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 288 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 288 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. How effective is charming a few and setting them against each other?
It seems that BCNMs with multiple enemies involve several possible strategies: manaburn, BRD lullaby, sleepga, kite, or charm. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 07-10-2006, 11:06 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Bewilderbeast Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,549 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 110
Thanked 307x in 204 Posts Gil: 159 Bank: 37,164 Total Gil: 37,323 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. They're immune to charm. Ellipses on Fenrir There is no rush. If you're not willing to take your time, don't be surprised when no one wants to give you much of theirs.
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Thanked 646x in 331 Posts Gil: 3,475 Bank: 53,487 Total Gil: 56,962 Donate | Re: BCNM30 Harem Scarem.. They're all immune to charm and lullaby, and there's no access to sleepga at that level. According to Telara, Sleep doesn't work well even with ES. That leaves kiting, but there are 6 mobs, and bind alone isn't going to cut it, so you'd need 5 rdm of you wanted to kite everything. That leaves little damage dealing left to kill everything in the time limit. You could try going with fewer kiters, but that doesn't seem to have worked for Eohmer.
I think the manaburn route like Aeni said is probably the only reasonable route left unless there's some kind of trick to it, like the 5 wives go down when Nenaunir does. 6x Firaga & Aeroga. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | |
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