04-16-2006, 11:10 PM | #1 (permalink) | | The boy that never levels Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 136 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 168 Thanked 16x in 13 Posts Gil: 5,557 Bank: 9,424 Total Gil: 14,981 Donate | Noob!  I'm a bit worried but wonder if anybody can give me advice for stating out, soon i will be a noob on Remora and wondered if you can give me any tips for when i start to PARTAY  I plan on being a Whm so any Whm help would be a BIG plus
Thanks in advance and hopefully see some of you soon
P.s you better give me good advice cuz if I suck its your fault lol
only kidding
xxxx I wanna see a Mithra girlband "Atomic Kitten" anyone? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-17-2006, 02:20 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: california Posts: 270 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 2 Posts Gil: 13,671 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 13,671 Donate | Re: Noob! >_> well, heres my mini-whm guide
1. dont melee. you cant do your job well if you're fighting instead of resting mp
2. dont pull <_< trust me, ive done it before, it doesnt work
3. be nice to the melee and dont say, "Stop taking too much dmg! god!"
4. dont die :D
above all else, have fun with whm XD  WAR75/ MNK45/ WHM38/ RDM6/ DRG13/ RNG42/ BLM21/ THF45 /SAM22 /NIN53 /BRD64 /DRK11 /SMN12/BST28/ PLD13/18 BLU/17 COR/1 PUP 
"The man all the ladies want." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Akai for above post: | | | 04-17-2006, 06:42 PM | #3 (permalink) | | The boy that never levels Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 136 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 168 Thanked 16x in 13 Posts Gil: 5,557 Bank: 9,424 Total Gil: 14,981 Donate | Re: Noob!  Thanks xx I wanna see a Mithra girlband "Atomic Kitten" anyone? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-17-2006, 06:57 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California Posts: 173 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 3,335 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,335 Donate | Re: Noob! Yay, someone new on Remora! \(^0^)/ Hehe, WHM is basically standing around an assuring your party doesn't do a flat liner! It's more or less a no-brainer but you can't just go slacking off because you think you got the job down, y'know? ^-^ MND is associated with WHM so shouldn't Satori keep that at a high? Fishy There once was fish, Whom made a perfect dish To a giant fish. The giant fish was caught, By a Mithra which sought To fill her hunger. The Mithra was slayed, By a monster whom would raid The land. What have we learned? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Reincarnation for above post: | | | 04-17-2006, 07:10 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 4,750 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,750 Donate | Re: Noob! | Originally Posted by Reincarnation | | It's more or less a no-brainer | WHM is probably THE most stressful job there is. It's rewarding, but it's stressful.
MP management is important while fighting. Don't use any useless spells. Seeing a WHM in a Valk party spamming Banish is just horrible to watch. It wastes a lot of MP. When you need to level your Divine Magic, do it in a skill up party. Bar spells are you friend, KEEP THEM UP. The most useful is Barfira. It will drop the total DMG the party takes from a gob bomb. In Valk, Baraera will drop the total DMG from Cursed Sphere, which the flys use. Enmity (hate) is also something you need to watch out for. Just because you have Cure II or III, doesn't mean you have to use them. In Valk, I used Cure II probably a total of 5 times, from 11 to 19. REGEN IS YOUR BEST FRIEND. Keep regen on the tank at all times. Also, when you get another level of regen, don't stop using the lower level one. Regen III does 20 HP a tick, and is nice, keep that on the tank. Put Regen II on the puller and first voke. Regen saves a LOT of MP. At 21, keep a Tank regened, and just spam Cure 1. It's a lot easier and better for hate IMO. For food, use Ginger Cookies. At 75, I use Marron Glace for parties, but at low levels, 3 hour food is wasteful. I use Ginger Cookies while farming and while doing triggers/gods/dynamis. Also, at level 40, get Haste. Remember to keep it on a NIN tank at all times. Hope that helped.  75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
Susan>> Why aren't there any female GM characters?
[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Rodin for above post: | | | 04-17-2006, 07:14 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California Posts: 173 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 3,335 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,335 Donate | Re: Noob! I found WHM rather easy, well 'cept when I was playing with that one WAR who didn't know how to Provoke... That got a bit out of hand... _._ Every three battles I needed a Raise or needed to HP. -.-; Fishy There once was fish, Whom made a perfect dish To a giant fish. The giant fish was caught, By a Mithra which sought To fill her hunger. The Mithra was slayed, By a monster whom would raid The land. What have we learned? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Reincarnation for above post: | | | 04-17-2006, 07:53 PM | #7 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 29,451 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,451 Donate | Re: Noob! | Originally Posted by Akai | | 4. dont die :D | easier said than done >_>
but yea, if your PT is dieing and runnign away, don't try to cure the fighters. just run yourself to safety. Later you will be the only person who can raise other members. As long as you're alive, the PT can still continues. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-17-2006, 08:31 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 4,750 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,750 Donate | Re: Noob! Dont' really need to run, just make sure Reraise is up. xD  75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
Susan>> Why aren't there any female GM characters?
[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-18-2006, 09:04 AM | #9 (permalink) | | The boy that never levels Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 136 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 168 Thanked 16x in 13 Posts Gil: 5,557 Bank: 9,424 Total Gil: 14,981 Donate | Re: Noob! This might sound REAL dumb but with reraise does the WHM have to cats that on him/herself in battle before you "Snuff it" or only after you die?
this might sound mental but if you understand where I'm confused then please set me straight.
" does reraise have to be used before or after you die to work"?
Thank you all xxx  I wanna see a Mithra girlband "Atomic Kitten" anyone? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-18-2006, 09:09 AM | #10 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,535 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 22 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 45,599 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 45,599 Donate | Re: Noob! before | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to neighbortaru for above post: | | | 04-18-2006, 09:25 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sc, usa Posts: 715 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 341 Bank: 2,104 Total Gil: 2,445 Donate | Re: Noob! 1. when you hit level 22, any you get the spell Regen, use it!
lol, soooo many new white mages ignore the spell, but it recovers like 150 hp for a cost of 15 mp. it rocks. keep it on the tank all the time, and you will *almost* never have to cure!
2. rest during the fight
rest to recover mp whenever you can. you should be resting whenever you aren't casting. Rest when the puller is pulling, rest between casting spells. Even if you will only recover 1 mp, it's still worth it. remember, the amount of exp the party gets is almost entirely dependent on whether or not you have mp
3. eat cookies
ginger cookies, wizard cookies... cookies are the best white mage food in the game. buy them from an npc if you need to, or buy them from the auction house. Cookies cause you to recover mp faster when resting, and remember suggestion number 2? cookies rock
you don't need "more" mp to be a better healer. a lot of new white mages see that your mp pool is kinda small, and instinctively think you need more mp to be better. You don't need more mp; all that does is make it take longer to rest your mp to full between fights. what you DO need is a way to recover your mp faster, and cookies are the best thing at the low levels for that | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-18-2006, 09:46 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 15,234 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,234 Donate | Re: Noob! First Rule Of Benidiction:
Use it. If your party is going to die, don't worry about your own death. Chances are, if your party is going to die, you are going to die too, even if you run. So use Benidicition, especially if the Mob is near death. Don't try and "wait it out" to see if your war can get that last Weapon Skill in before the tank eats it. If someone eats it, and you didn't use benidiction, then you could have saved a life. Sometimes this will happen no matter how hard you try (such as a nin who gets hit with goblin rush and a critical hit back to back between utsusemi). But there are LOTS of times where a well placed benidiction could have saved one or two people. 2hrs are there for a reason. If you never use them, whats the point?
Second Rule of Benidiction:
Don't run. If you use Benidiction, there is a chance the mob will come after you. Especially at earlier levels. But it is really important to know that if you run, the mob can still hit you. Players, however, cannot hit the mob while running. So if you run, you will die. And then there is no one to cure the Party. Most PLD have the attitude that they should die first cause they are tank. So if you use benidiction, they will invincible, provoke, flash, cure, etc., to get hate back. If you give your party a chance to get hate, they will, even at low levels. But not if you run. Double Post Edited:
I wanna add my agreement to the regen thing. In fact, Regen is so nice (Especially at my level with Regen 3) that you can keep an entire party healed without a proper tank sometimes. In my case, I was keeping people alive well enough that my party's red mage started complaining I was leeching XP by not casting real cures. But that, is another rant altogether. Last edited by sevenpointflaw : 04-18-2006 at 09:46 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to sevenpointflaw for above post: | | | 04-18-2006, 09:56 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sc, usa Posts: 715 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 341 Bank: 2,104 Total Gil: 2,445 Donate | Re: Noob! i cast regen on the tank, then sit down and rest. if someone else gets hit, i usually cast regen on them instead of a cure.
in fact, when i am playing my white mage, i hardly ever cast my cure spells at all. like seven point flaw said, if you use regen properly, you almost never have to cure, and you can almost always have mp, so the party can pull sooner, and everyone gets more exp. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to aegina for above post: | | | 05-09-2006, 04:04 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 254 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 254 Donate | Re: Noob! LOL. Don't die. I found that funny.
Another point, learn when to and when not to use Benediction and don't be afraid to use it if you need to. Benediction doesn't necessary mean death for the whm. I have saved my party many times and they kept me alive as well after using Bene.
But most importantly, HAVE FUN!  Posting from Alexander | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Wenchy for above post: | | | 05-09-2006, 04:08 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 177 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 7,787 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,787 Donate | Re: Noob! @ Rodin
Don't use any useless spells?
Great advice.
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