05-09-2006, 04:32 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 3,776 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,776 Donate | Re: Noob! Seriously, a WHM casting holy (and Banish) every fight really pisses me off. It might be okay for the occassional Magic Burst, when you have the MP, and are relatively not busy with curing. But, it's 100 MP, thats two Cure IIIs, and at my level, that's 470 HP (With Noble's Tunic, and Apollo's Staff) that goes to the tank/DD. Instead of doing the 75-100 DMG to the mob (Who have thousands of HP at this point). Debuffs on WHM aren't really that important. Most of the time, you should be letting the RDM or NIN cast debuffs. After 60, our enfeebling rate really hurts. So Paralyze, Slow, Silence, and Bind won't stick as reliably, unless you have a lot of MND+ and some Elemental Staves, even then, it's not as great as a RDM's. If you have a NIN in your party, you should be letting him debuff for hate anyways.
That's what I meant by useless spells.   75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
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[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? Last edited by Rodin : 05-09-2006 at 04:39 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Rodin for above post: | | | 05-09-2006, 06:11 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 125 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 2,744 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,744 Donate | Re: Noob! Like everyone said, don't melee! And for god's sake don't use benediction if you're the only one in a mild bit of trouble. Had that happen to me once. The whm got into the yellow and starting freaking out. He hit the "Panic Button" after the mob had gone back to the tank. Shortly after he was a Corpse of a WHM. "Oh, you ca'n't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're Mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be", said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." Welcome to Alice in FFXI =P | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Vair for above post: | | | 05-09-2006, 07:06 PM | #18 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,141 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 89x in 71 Posts Gil: 14,882 Bank: 20,568 Total Gil: 35,450 Donate | Re: Noob! Here's a tip.
If you use benediction and the mob is at more than 25 percent health, you will die.
Don't use benediction unless the party is in dire need of health and if the mob is almost dead. If you use benediction at the beginning of a fight, there's no chance in hell that you will survive. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Mog for above post: | | | 05-10-2006, 11:43 AM | #19 (permalink) | | I'm Busy Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,928 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 442 Thanked 1,553x in 984 Posts Gil: 1,712 Bank: 17,433 Total Gil: 19,145 Donate | Re: Noob! | Originally Posted by arcadia9 | | If you use benediction and the mob is at more than 25 percent health, you will die. | Well, tank depending. Any PLD can break out their two hour and you'll be fine, and I've even gotten hate back from a Bene as a WAR/MNK before (level 26 in Yuhtunga, and the WHM had the sense to stand still after his bene), so it can be done.
But still, you'll eventually learn when it is a good time to use your Two Hour, and when it isn't. It's all a learning process.^^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Murphie for above post: | | | 05-10-2006, 02:25 PM | #20 (permalink) | | Pai Pai Lackey Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,242 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 29x in 24 Posts Gil: 39,134 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 39,134 Donate | Re: Noob! Well Ctrl+Alt+Del has some wise words of advice for Elvaan WHM... Well not really but this comic piece is a warning for the melee's not to pick on the WHM. Stretch!
As for being on topic, seems like most of it's been covered for cures. Can get more specific, but they'd only be situational. How you need to focus on cures and what not generally has the same thing with few situations were it changes.
Otherwise it would be like what the others have said, so many repeats of the same info though... Got to many parrots.  Last edited by Macht : 05-10-2006 at 02:38 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Macht for above post: | | | 05-10-2006, 04:34 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,965 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 451x in 295 Posts Gil: 2,407 Bank: 47,106 Total Gil: 49,513 Donate | Re: Noob! I've said it before, but it bears repeating again:
Benediction does not spell automatic doom for a smart WHM once you pass level 29, and maybe even before.
You should start considering using Benediction when you're still above 100 MP (enough to cast Stoneskin plus Blink twice, with enough to cast a Cure II or so). If you're paying any attention at all, you usually know when a fight is going to end badly fairly early on; if you think you'll need to use Benediction, cast Blink, Stoneskin, use Benediction, and immediately start recasting Blink. This gives you anywhere from 3-5 hits worth of defense - usually enough time to let the monster get less angry at you, and for your other party members (who are now at full HP) to get control again or kill it.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Icemage for above post: | | | 05-10-2006, 04:50 PM | #22 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 205 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 14 Thanked 11x in 11 Posts Gil: 307 Bank: 7,731 Total Gil: 8,037 Donate | Re: Noob! Here's five tips that have been floating near the surface for me. -- Do not over cure.
In the dunes (and a bit in the jungles) I'd see White Mages that insisted on keeping everyones HP topped off during the fight. Invariably, these parties would either have massive down time, or get into a situation where the WHM was out of MP, and the tank was in dire straights.
If you've got a DD (or other non-tank position) that isn't stealing hate regularly, isn't in danger of being one-shotted, but doesn't have a full health bar --- it's okay. They don't need to be cured.
Keep that MP around in case your tank gets into trouble. -- Have all your spells All the Protect, Shell, Regen, Cure, and Bar*ra, and *na spells are useful. If you're close to being able to use such a spell, make sure you're carrying it along with you.
I have recently just gone through the dunes with two different characters than my main (Gentoo). Every party I got (that had a WHM), the player in question didn't have have Barwatera or Curaga (17+). The former would have saved MP through damage reduction from the attacks relevant to the crabs and pugils. The later would have saved MP so that the WHM wouldn't have had to spend MP curing all the praty memebers indvidually after a fight.
The exception to this rule (for me) is the offensive *ga spells for WHM. I still don't have any of the Banishga <n>, or Diaga <n> spells, nor have I found myself in a situation wishing I did. -- Do not cure yourself in a fight
You've somehow managed to get the monster attention and it's beating on you. The last thing you want to do is cast Cure on yourself. You've already got hate, probably by curing someone in your party. Curing yourself will only create more hate for yourself, and make it that much tougher for your tank to pry the monster off you.
This is situational of course. If the monster is almost dead, and you think you can keep yourself alive long enough so that party members can kill off the mob, go for it. -- Don't stand to close to the action
The amount of hate you can accumulate before getting the monsters attention, has distance figured in. That is, the farther you are way from the person you're curing, the less chance you have of getting the monsters attention.
Additionally, this saves you from any AOE that the monster might have. The melees might be able to narrowly withstand a goblin bomb toss -- the same is not true for mages. -- Learn to cook, and do it early
As a mage, food is vitally important. Juices, cookies, pies, mushroom dishes, humma humma, yadda yadda. Learn to make it yourself early on, it might save you some gil, but it will certainly make you more efficient (i.e. bringing stacks of fruit along with you to Valkurm Dunes to make juices...) signature by fallenintoshadows Linkshell: lolCats | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Gentoo for above post: | | | 06-04-2006, 10:25 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 157 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 44 Thanked 3x in 2 Posts Gil: 6,773 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,773 Donate | Noob & Newb | Originally Posted by Satori | | soon i will be a noob on Remora | You don't sound like a Noob to me. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Lucky and Elizabeth for above post: | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:57 PM. | | |