11-01-2005, 01:08 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sc, usa Posts: 715 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,723 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,723 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup also remember when choosing a camp, it is almost always better to chain tough mobs than to push for the omg!200xp!!1!1337 fights. if you can make chain 4 or 5 off mobs that give 100-150 xp a kill, you will make more xp per hour than if you were fighting IT++++ for 200 xp a kill.
the only downside to this is, sometimes it's hard to find a good camp to chain tough's.
choosing a good camp is as much a part of the party setup as matching the jobs is.  | Originally Posted by Goblin smithy | People who live in easily stabbed bodies shouldn't throw stones.
Good motto there. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-01-2005, 01:22 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 1,830 Bank: 301 Total Gil: 2,131 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup I agree, but toughs make EXP gain a tad low when you can do the same thing and gain 150-200+ EXP. Chaining Robber Crabs to Chain #4, gaining about 180+ with the Chain, and then pull a mean Terror Pugil with TP and wipe it out for end the chain. I'd much rather chain VTs, then end it with an IT. Blow out a huge skillchain and a few good sized MBs FTW!  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-01-2005, 02:59 PM | #18 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sc, usa Posts: 715 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,723 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,723 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup he's right. i didnt mean chain only toughs for 98 xp each. Ideally, aim for about 150 xp per mob(not counting the bonus from the chain) or so. That's usually the best balance between xp and downtime.
i did this in an xp pt last night, making 150-200 xp a kill for chain 4 or 5 every time, starting at 150, but reaching 200 by the end of the chain (with an occasional 100 xp beetle sneaking its way into our chain lol). we had the nin-sam-thf-blm-blm-whm pt i mentioned above, and we made around 6k xp an hour. this was a around lvl 42-45 pt in west altepa desert. not a bad pt at all^^  | Originally Posted by Goblin smithy | People who live in easily stabbed bodies shouldn't throw stones.
Good motto there. | Last edited by aegina : 11-01-2005 at 03:38 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-01-2005, 03:28 PM | #19 (permalink) | | 貓白魔術師 Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,195 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 118 Thanked 4x in 2 Posts Gil: 9,684 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,684 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup Hmm at Bibiki Bay i had PLD DRK SAM DRG RDM WHM(me!). Fighting Gobs and Birds, and on a Gobs mostly.
SC: Guillotine(500) > Tachi: Gekko(forget) > Wheeling Thrust(604) => Light(908)
and Swift Blade(all over the place) > Tachi: Gekko => Darkness
I wasnt able to haste since it was moving so fast with SC here and there but damn it was awesome for me. In your faces DRG haters.. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-01-2005, 11:32 PM | #20 (permalink) | | red means NO Super Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 2,757 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 59 Thanked 156x in 93 Posts Gil: 22,085 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,085 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup It obviously depends on many things, but my favorite type of parties are:
NIN for tanking (above 60~)
THF for helping NIN with hate, and to do amazing SC damages
BRD for my MP ^^
WHM as a healer
BLM that's me
DRG / MNK / WAR / SAM as damage dealers and skillchain partners.
Props of DRG:
Good damage overall, provided the wyvern is present most of the time, at 60 and above, my experience with drg has been a very fruitfull and enjoyable one, they gain super TP, that's all i'll say, <3 drg.
Props of MNK:
Wow... they keep stealing hate with the dmg they do and the TP they get, imo, the best DD in the game, specially side by side with a THF and a NIN! Distortion -> Light! and the BLM doing double MB and the mob dieing in 10 seconds D8
Props of WAR:
Saves you in a pinch, deals more than enough dmg, TP gain doesnt lag behind, overall a great job in any way.
Props of SAM:
My favorite melee job, the Samurai... oh the Samurai.. i used to be one~heh. TP for le win, damage is above average, constant 100% tp is this job's main trait, they will not let the SC down, ever!
IMO, a good party NEEDS a good skillchain, i hate DRK with a heart because i havent ever come across a DRK that skillchains properly, the SC partner waits the whole battle for the DRK to get tp... and then most of the time it's already too late, but yea, they use it on next mob and the damage is off the hook, but i prefer SCing in everybattle thank you. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2005, 01:53 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sc, usa Posts: 715 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,723 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,723 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup some tips for a good pt setup:
whenever you get a sam, try to get a blm or two. magic bursts rock!  and with a sam, you can burst more often
whenever you get a ninja for a tank, try to get a thf. they help the ninja hold hate better, freeing up your other dd's to deal more damage with less hate problems.
whenever you get a pld, get a rdm. a rdm with refresh makes a pld almost self sufficient, and greatly reduces downtime.
just a few tips^^  | Originally Posted by Goblin smithy | People who live in easily stabbed bodies shouldn't throw stones.
Good motto there. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2005, 02:55 PM | #22 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 3,897 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,897 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup King Ranperre's Tomb, everyone 71+:
MNK/WAR
MNK/WAR
MNK/WAR
MNK/WAR
BRD/WHM
WHM/SMN
....If every MNK has Asuran Fists, XP can get crazy.  75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
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[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2005, 05:13 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sc, usa Posts: 715 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,723 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,723 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup | Originally Posted by DrivenTooFar | | I know that based on some mobs you might want different parties everytime but I am just looking for a basic favorite. | this thread isnt about unusual pt's, like monk burn and mana burn pt's. its about normal pt setups in normal levelling zones.  | Originally Posted by Goblin smithy | People who live in easily stabbed bodies shouldn't throw stones.
Good motto there. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2005, 05:54 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CA Posts: 33 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,038 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,038 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup best party was mnk( me) mnk, mnk, mnk, whm, and brd in KRT. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-04-2005, 08:28 AM | #25 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,485 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 30x in 17 Posts Gil: 6,363 Bank: 4,481 Total Gil: 10,845 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup One of my favourates so far was RDM (me), BRD, BLM, NIN, DRG, THF. We were in Dragon's Avery taking out darters in about 20-40 seconds per fight depending on whether the Melee's TP was ready. We were averaging about 250 exp per kill and it rarely dropped below 200, getting up to about 300 a couple of times. This was before the new exp rings aswell. The BLM timed us in 1 fight, it took us 19 seconds to kill a mob from pull.
Only thing that slowed us down was running out of mobs. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-04-2005, 09:21 AM | #26 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winter Garden, FL. Posts: 359 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 7,679 Bank: 16,733 Total Gil: 24,413 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup | Originally Posted by aegina | | this thread isnt about unusual pt's, like monk burn and mana burn pt's. its about normal pt setups in normal levelling zones. | Actually, it is about any party that you like. It doesn't matter if it's a normal party or a burn party, as long as it is a favorite of the poster. You kill one man, your a murderer Kill many and your a conquerer Kill them all... your a God. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-04-2005, 11:38 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,250 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 62 Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 11,934 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,934 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup I've been in several good parties and I guess they don't really fall into traditional setups.
I think the most undoubtedly fun one was a party of five. Yes, you read that correctly.
PLD THF DRK SMN WHM
No refreshing ability (outside of the SMN) We were making chain #4s and 5s for 180 to 270 exp each. This was about level 61 in Valley of Sorrows. We knew how to scrimp MP and make exp chains. It was wild. We pulled and killed faster than this party with 2x RNGs, BRD, NIN, THF and BLM.
Another fun party I was in ...
NIN DRK WAR WHM RDM BLM
We churned about 8k an hour even with the level spread out from 69 (me) to 74 (BLM) Of course it didn't hurt that it was with my LS at the time ;3a The key to doing this was we never had a down time. We pulled and pulled and pulled. If WHM needs to rest, RDM takes over main healing. When RDM needs to rest (She was constantly going through conversions) the BLM would take over enfeebling and healing. It was a tandem of mage cooperation. WAR and NIN would take turns tanking - most WARs I've been with don't like tanking - and that made it easier to setup SATA, since there were no preference really. It also allowed us to take on an add (NIN would solo a mob while the rest of us tried to bring down the other quickly) which made the exp chaining even faster.
A party I was in emphasized fast exp. That was the most exp I ever gained in a party. 20k exp in 2 hours.
RNG RNG PLD RDM DRK SMN
And another party I was in was similar ...
DRG SAM DRK RDM WHM NIN
The 3-way light was devastating. It ate up 70% of an IT hobgoblin's hp in 5 seconds. Also featured light and dark chains almost every fight  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-07-2006, 01:17 PM | #28 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 83 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 83 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup Im a 50 pld, and lvling from about 45-50 i found my favorite setup to be:
sam, thf, pld(me), blm, whm, rdm(refresh of course)=D
Sam vokes first, SATA onto me, then when skillchain is ready: Tachi:enpi>>viper bite SATA onto Sam, i can still hold hate and the mobs hp goes way down.... sweet Dammit Jim, I'm a Paladin not a pala...
oh... I'll get right on it.... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-07-2006, 01:23 PM | #29 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 296 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 438 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 438 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup My favorite PT setup, while not the most efficient, was the most fun I've had, it included
PLD/NIN
WAR/NIN
NIN/WAR
COR/RNG(How this guy got up to the 60s so fast, I don't know!)
BRD/WHM
RDM/BLM | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-07-2006, 01:38 PM | #30 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Katrineholm, Sweden, Europe, Earth Posts: 167 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 2 Thanked 16x in 13 Posts Gil: 474 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 474 Donate | Re: Ideal Party Setup Well depening on level-range as well as which job I play I have diffrent favorite setups. Samurai (30-34)When I last played SAM 30-34 the setup which I favored where.
WAR/MNK, WAR/THF(Gaxe), SAM/WAR (me), THF/WAR, BLM, WHM - I pulled as SAM and then the WAR/THF voked I did Tachi:Enpi >>> SATA Viper Bite off WAR/MNK BLM MB'ed.
- Next fight WAR/MNK voked and we did Tachi:Hobaku >>> SA Sturmwind BLM MB'ed.
- Repeat from 1.
Warrior (60-65)When I play WAR I do it as WAR/NIN or WAR/THF and have a SET DRK partner that subs either /WAR or /THF.
Basically we do either Power Slash >>> Rampage or Guillotine >>> Raging Rush depending on which tank we have we sub diff jobs (NIN tank we sub THF, PLD we sub /NIN and /WAR).
For the other three slots I like a BRD, RDM or WHM and BLM setup since it allows for fast-paced fights and decent exp per hour.
Basically a school book example.- Pull mob
- Build TP
- WS + SC
- repeat from 1.
Paladin (60-65)I set with a SMN as PLD (actually the same player that is DRK SET with my WAR).
I must say as PLD I want a RDM since it makes my life so much easier when it comes to manage mp usage/fight, BRDs work too but creates some headaches for song positioning when fighting certain mobs (some mobs you just don't want to be facing any mages).
As PLD my preferred setup would be PLD(me), SMN(SET friend), RDM(or BRD), 2 melees that can make a beefy skillchain and a BLM to MB off the Skilchain (my SMN friend gets to MB off it as well of course if timers are up).
As PLD only thing I really care about is mp usage/fight and to keep hate on me, the damage and skillchains I leave to the melees and mages to fiddle out since I am not really part of them. For other jobs, well I havn't played them so much recently so cannot really state an opinion on them right now (since I have no recent experiences).
But in general tank + 2 melees (skillchain partners) + healer + support + BLM is how I usually build parties. Keep in mind, sig might be outdated I just update it a few times per week. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:31 AM. | | |